Christopher (Drashna)

I did it once out of curiosity it did save some space but not a lot but I also ended up with a few corrupt files so I didn't bother after that

I use SyncToy and create scheduled task for it.

I use AllwaySync, which works really great.  It preserves time stamps, downloads the file to a temp location until complete, has 2-way and 1-way sync, and allows you to run multiple jobs with easy to use filters and automatic synchronization.  This is an excerpt from the license agreement for the free version.
 
 
In the past, I had tried RoboCopy, which worked well but did not do well when network connectivity was temporarily lost...even with the restart option.  My experience with Bittorrent Sync was horrible with an early beta version, and I ended up losing some time stamp data and even lost some files because of it.

Very nice, glad it worked!  I will pretend that the next beer I drink is from you.  
 

Using 2.X, you just install another copy on another PC (no need for a another license) and that copy will find the server and gives the exact same interface as if you were directly on the server.  Very neat.  And it starts instantly (compared to WHS2011 Dashboard).  

This Reconnect of a USB 3.0 Drive is a Windows 8.1 Bug. Have it now since years. 2-3 Month ago a Windows Updates fixed it for some USB 3.0 Drives but not for my Drives.
Try to Disable Drive Spindown in Powermenu and disable Energie Saving for Drives and USB Ports. 
 
Look if your USB 3.0 has a NEC Chip, it was reportet that this is more Stable under Windows 8.1.

You my friend deserve a beer, too bad we are too far apart, but your solution was right and your posting very detail, i appreciate you took the time and share with me your experience, its working exactly as before, even better now i don't depend on an old config, now the UI works.
 
Thanks again for the suggestion.

+1.  Go with 2.X.  I run WHS2011 and started with 1.X of drivepool.  Moved to 2.x and never looked back.  I like the stand alone remote DP monitor/control app much better. It starts instantly and you can control everything on your WHS server from any PC.  This is far better than having to start the WHS dashboard which, for me, takes too long to start and requires I put in the password every time.
 
I also recall that you have more file placement options going with 2.X over 1.X of DP.  Go with 2.X, no doubt.   

Thanks for the list of differences, I mostly didn't need them so I'm happy for the integration.
 
DP and Scanner a great team.

Hi Christopher, I know I've informed you of the following in our support conversation but i'll update this thread too in case anyone else has a similar issue. 

 

Stablebit's software is working great of course, and the issue seems with my config.  I was thinking it's an incompatibility with the 6Tb Red Drive, and my HP Microserver.  But something you said sparked a light in my head, which was about the controller i'm using.  I'd been using the generic windows SATA controller. This is because HP doesn't provide drivers for Windows 8 for the HP Microserver (N54L).  But i saw from other people's configurations that they seemed to be using an AMD Sata Controller driver. So i searched the net and eventually found the AMD driver compatible with windows 8 and installed that. Although the disk disappeared after restarting, a full power down and on again got it back.  And so far i've done a complete scan of the disk, this time without any errors. Since that's the first time the scan has completed without errors for that disk i am now working on the assumption that the SATA driver was the problem.  I'm doing more tests but with a bit of luck i hope it's solved.

 

Thank you so much for suggesting the controller drivers could be an issue as i think i never would have thought of that. Shame HP don't support more systems, though yes i expect Windows 8 isn't the first choice of OS for it.

 

Thanks again for the advice and ideas, it may well have saved the day for me

Thank you for grabbing the logs. I've flagged them for Alex and he'll take a look at them soon.

AS long there are back doors, there are back doors. No matter for who.
 
I`m not a programmer but I understand what you`re saying. This approach it was by design. It might be one of the main reasons Truecrypt has such a success.
 
I`m sorry, but I didn`t follow you regarding the "Product 3". I`m new here. Do you have a new product on the horizon?
If that`s the case, congrats and I wish you "All the best!" with the 3rd child.
What`s the product, if you don`t mind?
That means, DrivePool will support Truecrypt in the future?
 
Cheers,

Well, Ping is "N/A" unless you enable the ping test. This tests the response speed for the drive, and is useful for testing for performance issues.
 
So if that's "N/A", there there is no issue at all.

Actually, Server Backup is probably using a specific VSS/Backup Writer for the SQL Server. Since I'm sure this is MS SQL Server that you're talking about, then that would definitely be the case. And in fact, Microsoft has made sure that Server Backup is "aware" of SQL Server, and is part of the "application" section. So you may be able to restore just the database, if needed.
And it definitely takes a VSS snapshot, to prevent inconsistency in the data. 
 
 
It really depends on the database. 
If you're using SQLite (which is most likely the case with OwnCloud), then you should be able to just backup the files. Running a robocopy (or even just "copy") script should be enough to do so.
If you're using MySQL, you can run a script to dump the database into a SQL file (or even use phpMyAdmin to do this manually). 
As for SQL Server, well that's a lot trickier unfortunately. But I do believe you can create a database dump as well.

Yeah, there shouldn't be a problem doing os. 
But you'll want to make absolutely certain that "Real-time duplication" is enabled. (default).
 
However, it is likely that the SQL server will keep the pool activate at all times.
 
Also, keep in mind that running the SQL database on the server may make it more difficult to back up the database (if that is a concern).

I'm still weary of the the proc.  but you've clearly done your home work on your requirements,  check back in in a few months, when you get your build complete,  let us know how it goes.   

Honestly? Not really.
The Microsoft Connect website used to be pretty awesome about that.... but that's since been depreciated....
 
If you know a Windows Desktop or Windows Experience Microsoft MVP, that would be the best way to "pass along the word".
There is also the EECB method.....
 
Aside from those, posting at the technet forums:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/home

Well, I'm glad to hear that it's able to see all the drives without any issues (other than not reading SMART, from the sounds of your other thread).
 
64 drives is no small amount!

Hmm, I thought I had replied to this already.
 
On the disks in questions, do you have Shadow Copies enabled? 
TO check, run "control system", and click on the "System Protection" link. Find the drives in question. If "Protection" is "On" for them, select the drive and hit "configure" and turn it off.
 
Also, if you "take ownership" of the "System Volume Information" folder, and delete it, that will also purge the shadow copies.
 
Also, you can use utilities such as WinDirStat to see the layout of all the files on the pool, what folder they're in and how much space they're taking up.
 
Also, if you right click on the the drive, and select "Properties" and let it sit for ... a while, it should show you the space used and the space used on disk (these are different numbers, and that difference is the "slack space" we talk about, and is attributed to "other").
If that equals what is on the disk, then you may just need to defragment the drive.

Well, according to the image, everything is "fine".
 
By fine, I mean that files don't get automatically evened out between the disks. The default file placement strategy is to place files on the disk with the most available free space. It doesn't move existing files unless another balancer (such as Scanner) tells it to move files off of a disk.
 
Though it does look like the feeder disk is slowly balancing data off of it.

That really sucks, and hope you're able to recover your lost data. 

I, too, lost a drive the other day (WD2002FYPS, Mfg Date: 14 May 2012) and it sucked. It died with no imminent SMART warnings at all. But I suspect it died because of the high load cycle count (which still baffles me, as this is an enterprise-grade drive).

I use Drivepool in combination with SyncBack pro to mirror/backup the entire pool to an external disk. On SyncBack I set up versioning so that if files are missing/deleted on the next source->destination check, they will get placed into a versioning directory. At the very least, if a drive died on my pool, the next Sync on SyncBack will show me what files I lost, if any, and I could recover them.

 

Maybe "Product 3" that is currently in development will address this.  I had the same thought.  
 
The great thing about Drive Pool is its ability to use a mix of fast (i.e. local) drives and slow (might be remote), and has the intelligence to read from the fastest drive using 'read striping' option, if you are using duplication.  

I have about 100 rules setup to place my files. The file placement rules are the best thing since sliced bread.
 
I have 72 rules just for my tv shows.
 
\ServerFolders\Videos\TV Shows\The A*
\ServerFolders\Videos\TV Shows\A*
 
I have these 2 rules setup for every number and letter. These rules make sure that shows like The Americans (2013) don't get placed on the drive for shows beginning with T.

You are very welcome!
 
If you have any other questions, don't hesitate to ask.

Got my new cable from Amazon today (god I love Prime) Powered the drive & server down, swapped out the cable and fired them back up.  Success!  The drive was found and installed on a USB3 port, all of them actually, It was the cable, nice to get a $3.57 solution once in a while.  All is now good on my 12.5 TB of media.