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  1. whoah nelly ever tried to drag n drop files/folders between the DP underlying drives while the service is still enabled? you may think you are 'copying' the files but since DP treats all member drives as part of the 'conglomerate whole' you will soon find that your 'drag n drop' is actually a 'move.' pay attention to the transfer dialogue box. and... OOOPS!! ... ever tried to do the same thing while the DrivePool service has been stopped, and accessing the underlying DP drives (you might be transferring files between a DP pooled drive and some other drive somewhere) have the same thing happen? LOL the DrivePool driver is still loaded. you run the same risk. again, pay attn to the transfer box. i say all this because we want to be able to compare the data, right? however you wanna do that? make sure it's all the same? SOLUTION right-click and drag/drop... you will get a pop-up from Windows asking to move or copy. choose COPY. when satisfied, delete from the source. yes... everyone knows about this (windows) feature. but it holds court in its own special way when using DrivePool. unless you are a cmd line user and know exactly what you are doing (i am not), don't just drag n drop willy nilly within DrivePool. TLDR your DrivePool installation will sometimes make Windows behave unexpectedly when you are not thinking too deeply about DrivePool. or maybe it's the other way around. lol cheers
  2. hello i do not use StableBit CloudDrive, but i think i see the problem here, after many years reading these forums before licensing and using SB products. existing data on a cloud provider (files, folders, etc.) will not be seen by a SB CloudDrive once it is created. something to do with how the drive is created and obfuscated at a block/chunk level. all data on a new CloudDrive must be uploaded from the user to the newly created CloudDrive before it is seen in the CloudDrive, regardless of whether the data already exists and is accessible by logging on to Google Drive and using their browser/whatever UI. when/if Shane or Christopher respond, i'm quite sure they will tell you the same thing, albeit providing much more useful technical info. in the meantime, reading the manual and the FAQ may help. https://stablebit.com/Support/CloudDrive/Manual https://stablebit.com/Support/CloudDrive/Faq IOW, this is just telling you what to expect while you are scratching your head wondering cheers
  3. yes i follow (kinda lol) ... i for one hate that Windows will LIE TO YOUR FACE when/if write caching is enabled (easy enough to see, just open Task Manager and notice that whatever I/O operation is STILL continuing long after whatever transfer/progress box closes). so i recommend killing write caching on ALL external USB enclosures. better to see EXACTLY what is happening and WHEN than OOPS did i just delete that and it wasn't done yet? yes i have learned from experience lol... i have ZERO experience with SAS so i'll just keep quiet there... thanks for the deets.
  4. ok, just curious... first of all... (per the last paragraph of your first post), why are read striping and real time duplication enabled on your pool if duplication (as inferred) is not enabled? seems to me your settings are complicating things. kill them both (disable) for starters. i too have a SYBA 8bay exactly like yours. it is where my DrivePool lives. i also have an Oyen Mobius Pro 5C where my backups live. writing/reading speed from this enclosure can vary greatly (70MBps from the Oyen to the SYBA... 160MBps from the SYBA to the Oyen). and they're both attached to the same USB3 adapter card. *shrugs* go figure. if you are actually seeing the speeds you mentioned, consider yourself lucky. 18+ TB and 7200 rpm speed = R/W speed i wish i had. all of my drives max out at 8TB 128MB cache, so i have to be happy with what i have. cheers
  5. welcome to DrivePool. yes i see that you have been a member of these forums since 2015. slow and steady seems to be DrivePool's SMO. not much we can do about it. just let it ride and it will finish eventually. parallel threads? not gonna happen. TLDR: duplication on a huge pool should be a scheduled event. this is exactly why i run a x1 pool (no duplication). backups of backups keep me good. YMMV cheers
  6. hi. this is basically just a repost of one of my earlier posts about stopping DrivePool polling/pinging drives every few seconds... i too prefer my drives to spin constantly, however if you seek to have your drives sleep, this action must be performed prior to adjusting Windows settings to allow sleep, or else your drives will just spin all the time anyway because of the pings/polls. cheers in windows/file explorer enable 'show hidden files and folders.' then go to: https://wiki.covecube.com/Main_Page and bookmark for future reference. from this page on the left side click StableBit DrivePool > 2.x Advanced Settings. https://wiki.covecube.com/StableBit_DrivePool_2.x_Advanced_Settings if you are using BitLocker to encrypt your drives you will NOT want to do this, and will just have to live with the drive LEDs flashing and disc pings i assume. i don't use it so i don't know much about it. the given example on this page just happens to be the exact .json setting you need to change to stop DP from pinging your discs every ~5secs. set "BitLocker_PoolPartUnlockDetect" override value from null to false as shown. if StableBit CloudDrive is also installed you will need to change the same setting for it also. opening either of these json files, it just happens to be the very top entry on the file. you may need to give your user account 'full control' on the 'security' tab (right click the json > properties > security) in order to save the changes. this worked immediately for me, no reboot necessary. YMMV... good luck
  7. hello since no one else has chimed in yet, i will risk posting a few things i have learned about SAS drives, perhaps they may point you in the right direction. *disclaimer* i have never owned or used a SAS drive. ever. you can go here: https://community.covecube.com/index.php?/topic/3168-st1000nm0001-sas-no-smarttemperatureage/#comment-21874 and here: https://community.covecube.com/index.php?/topic/4187-smart-tools-with-sas-drives/#comment-32039 and read what Christopher says about SMART and SAS drives, and then about how they are still not supported in StableBit Scanner. HardDisk Sentinel claims to support SAS drives, but i wouldn't know for sure. go here: https://www.hdsentinel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12714 lastly, almost every google search i launched (SAS and S.M.A.R.T. etc etc) returns a program called "smartctl." go here to download it and explore the documentation. https://sourceforge.net/projects/smartmontools/files/ hope this helps cheers
  8. StableBit DrivePool is NOT a RAID solution/implementation. AFAIK, RAID is block based, while DrivePool has always been and always will be file based. therefor, NO silent automatic repair of the file(s) in question. sorry if that's not what you want to hear, but thems the facts lol... you can have 4 identical drives, pair them off as 2 RAID 1 arrays, then add them both to the pool and enable duplication on them. as soon as 2 (or more) duplicated files differ for whatever reason, you are still gonna get the pop-up box asking how you want to proceed. perhaps when/if Shane replies to your question, they will have more to add. cheers
  9. hello again lol same difference, as far as i can see. the files may just differ slightly, as in a recently modified document or whatever, or they could be media files, one of which is corrupt and unplayable. it will pop-up a box, and if you follow the path(s) listed to the file(s), you can attempt to play (execute) both files and see which one is corrupt. as far as 'fixing' the corrupt file, i would say that's a hard NO. if i remember correctly, all it does is ask if you want to keep the most recent version of the file in question, or fix it yourself. if you choose the most recent version, and that's the one that's corrupt, oh well i guess you're SOL. cheers
  10. hello see here: https://community.covecube.com/index.php?/topic/15289-drivepool-logic-when-2x-pool-file-duplication-goes-out-of-sync/#comment-48403 whenever there is a data or file 'compare' error, DP will pop-up a box notifying you of it, and ask what you wish to do about it. cheers
  11. i would add that, the most sensible option is as Shane said DP will ask... fix it yourself. long ago when i was experimenting with pool duplication, there was a conflict between 2 movie files on my drives. when DP popped up and asked me what to do, i left the question/notification/error box sitting there... i went to the underlying DP drives and compared the 2. it was the NEWER version that was corrupt and would not play. moral of the story: always check it out for yourself. cheers
  12. just my opinion, but i think you are WAY overthinking the situation. yes lotsa copies keeps stuff safe. i myself have a few 2TB drives, and a crapload of 500GB HGST SATA II drives pulled from Vista era machines. those things are tanks. lol load up your older 'used' drives with your important 'triplicated' data and put them in the closet. or the storage unit. or the bank safety deposit box. follow the 321 backup plan rule. WTF you wanna do with them, it's probably better than creating an essentially useless pool in DrivePool and then scratching your head later. i use a program called VVV (virtual volume view) to catalog my drives. cheers
  13. hello. i don't know what the solution to your issue might be, but i do know that the AIO plug-in is outdated. the code is old and one of the plug-ins (Drive Space Equalizer) it was originally designed to replace has been updated so... using the AIO may cause conflicts . see here for a bit more info: https://community.covecube.com/index.php?/topic/12857-all-in-one-plug-in/#comment-45314 if i were in your place i would consider disabling the AIO. until the original programmer @methejuggler gets around to updating his code or @Alex will actually do something about this issue it seems more of a liability than any kind of enhancement. tl;dr: your plugins are banging heads. all this said, i would wait for an 'official' reply from Shane or Christopher before attempting anything drastic. just my .02 cents cheers
  14. hi yes, what DaveJ suggested is your best bet. and Shane is correct (as usual). you have (in)effectively mounted your pool drives into a folder on the pool and this is causing Everything to fail and WILL cause other problems down the road. to quote Shane: "Late edit for future readers: DON'T mount them as folders inside the pool drive itself, nor inside a poolpart folder. That risks a recursive loop, which would be bad." 1. on your C (Bears) drive, recreate the D:\DrivePool folder where you mounted your drives 301 302 etc. so you now have C:\DrivePool with EMPTY folders for all your drives that are in the pool. DO NOT try to drag and drop the DrivePool folder on D to C mmm mmm bad idea. just do this manually as you did before. 2. STOP the DrivePool service (win + R, type 'services.msc' find StableBit DrivePool Service and Stop it). 3. go to Disk Management and as in https://wiki.covecube.com/StableBit_DrivePool_Q4822624 remount all the drives from D:\DrivePool into the drive folders in C:\DrivePool. windows may/will throw some warnings about the change. ignore them and remount all 16 from D:\DrivePool to C:\DrivePool. 4. reboot now your file explorer should show Bears C:, DrivePool D:, and maybe G X and Y too, idk... enable show hidden files and folders and navigate to C:\DrivePool. doubleclicking any of the drive folders will show the contents of the drive if any and a hidden PoolPart.xxxx folder. these PoolPart folders are where the 'POOL' lives. and this is where/how to access your data from 'outside' the pool. be careful they are not deleted. 5. go to the folder DrivePool on D and delete it. totally unnecessary after the remount from D to C and now it is just a distraction. 6. life is good. some advice: for simplicity's sake, i would rename C:\DrivePool to C:\Mounts or something similar. having your pool and the folder where its drives are mounted with both the same name WILL only confuse someone at some point and bad things could happen. hope this helps cheers
  15. i am not the sharpest knife in the drawer but i cannot think of any logical reason to include the system boot/OS drive as a pooled drive in any DrivePool setup. the potential for shooting oneself in the foot is immense. as @Shane said, you can use a folder on the OS drive (or any drive) to mount your drives within but that is another thing entirely. and you are guessing correctly as DrivePool is not loaded until after/as Windows boots. if you have, say, only one 2TB (generally 1.8TB usable) ssd you could partition 300GB for the Windows OS (C:\) and partition the remaining 1.5TB as data storage (D:\) and add/make a pool from D then add more drives when acquired. spend time here: https://stablebit.com/Support/DrivePool/2.X/Manual and reading through the forums so you know what you're getting into cheers
  16. VapechiK

    All in One plug-in

    hello i cannot speak to the functionality of the All In One plugin when running the latest beta, as i do not run beta software of any kind (all software is beta lol). i am running 2.3.2.1493 release final. i will upgrade to the latest and greatest release when it is available i suppose. that said, here's what happens when i tinker with the AIO settings in DrivePool... I click OK and the DP UI crashes. this happens when the AIO is selected (ticked or unticked), then any another plug-in is selected (again either ticked or unticked), then finally reselecting the AIO plug-in. sometimes it will error when 'cancel' is clicked and only AIO was selected, though not always. it's saving UI error reports; dark mode using the AIO is barely readable, the contrasts are way off and only running the light theme in the DrivePool gui does it look 'normal' but it still fails the above. in the past i have un/reinstalled it with reboots etc. to no avail. i will give it another go when i upgrade DP; for now the OFP & DUL plug-ins do all that i need. another thing: DrivePool 2.3.3.1505 gave us an update to the Disk Space Equalizer .1501 * [Issue #28751] Added an option to equalize by used disk space to the Disk Space Equalizer balancer. & .1504 * Added an explicit placement limit setting to the Disk Space Equalizer balancer. the AIO in its current state does not include these options. perhaps @methejuggler will update their code soon or maybe @Alex will take over its maintenance? i will be adding another pool of 3 or 4 ssds soon and would love to have the AIO updated and stable. cheers
  17. hi. the quick and easy way is as follows... in windows/file explorer, enable 'show hidden files and folders.' open DP gui go to 'Manage Pool^' 'Balancing...' 'Settings' tab and tick 'do not balance automatically' and UNTICK 'allow balancing plug-ins to force blah blah.' SAVE ensure the drive you want to remove is mounted either as a drive letter or in a folder somewhere so it can be accessed in explorer. power down your computer, add the new drive, power back up and format/mount it however you want in 'Disk Management.' go to DrivePool gui and add the new drive to the pool. while still in the DP gui click 'Remove' on the drive you wish to remove. leave all the removal options UNCHECKED and remove it. run 'services.msc' and stop the DrivePool service. the DP gui will disappear. then in explorer, in the old/small hdd, navigate to inside the hidden 'poolpart.xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx' folder and highlight/select all the folders and files within. right click > select 'Copy.' then navigate to the new hdd and 'Paste' your data on the root level. when it finishes copying and you are satisfied that a 'bit for bit' copy of all the data has occurred, drag/drop the newly copied data into the hidden poolpart folder on the new drive. restart DrivePool service/gui. Manage Pool^ > Re-measure > Re-measure. when re-measuring has completed and you have a solid green 'Pool Organization' bar, go back to the above second step and reset your balancing settings to however they were. SAVE. reboot. viola... done. you may find this link useful to understand the seeding process. https://wiki.covecube.com/StableBit_DrivePool_Q4142489 TL;DR 1. show hidden 2. disable automatic balancing, SAVE 3. add/remove drives to/from pool 4. STOP DrivePool service 5. copy data from old drive to new drive and move it to the poolpart folder on new drive 6. restart DrivePool service 7. re-measure pool 8. reset whatever balancing settings, SAVE 9. reboot 10. enjoy DrivePool goodness if you have any custom balancing plug-in settings enabled (i.e. Disk Space Equalizer) DrivePool will probably begin balancing in the background after you reboot. this is normal, just let it do its thing. the above process is really only practical with unduplicated pools, and i have used it many times swapping out 4TB drives for 8TB. i also run my pool with no duplication and have no balancers enabled so all my data stays exactly where i put it on the underlying drives. hope this helps... cheers
  18. oh you're welcome just as an afterthought and to perhaps clarify, if DrivePool is the only StableBit product you are trialing, simply turning off bitlocker SHOULD solve the sleep issue and allow windows to handle normal drive/sleep control duties. since Scanner is a drive health monitoring utility, it must occasionally communicate with the drives, thereby potentially waking them up. yes there are settings within that allow user control over them and that is all fine and dandy but, if it's not installed then it's not there to further complicate things initially. perhaps just get DrivePool up and running as you like and the sleep issue handled first, then see about Scanner. i myself wouldn't run a pool without it; the wealth of info it provides about my system in general is well worth the price of admission, and the occasional alert i've received has nipped any real trouble in the bud. long story short here, the second link provided while very interesting and helpful indeed, is mostly moot unless StableBit Scanner is actually installed. and, i can't imagine any scenario where one MUST have Scanner installed in order for drive sleep to happen simply because DrivePool is installed. if you already have both DP and Scanner installed, well great. you can't go wrong there. let us know how it goes and how you finalize your setup
  19. hello even if you're not using bitlocker, you MUST change the setting value from null to false in the DrivePool json file. otherwise DP will ping your disks every 5secs or so, and your disks will never sleep at all anyway. then you begin messing around with windows settings to set when they sleep. folks here have had varying degrees of success getting drives to sleep, some with no luck at all. in StableBit Scanner there are various Advanced Power Management (APM) settings that bypass windows and control the drive through its firmware. i have read of success going that route, but have no experience at all since i am old school and my 'production' DP drives spin constantly cuz that's how i like it. to change the json: https://wiki.covecube.com/StableBit_DrivePool_2.x_Advanced_Settings there are many threads here on this topic as you have seen, but of course i can't find them easily now that i'm looking lol... perhaps @Shane or @Christopher (Drashna) will provide the link where Alex (the developer) explains the APM settings in Scanner and the whole drive sleep issue in general in greater detail. tl;dr you must turn off bitlocker detection first before your drives will ever sleep. BTW if you ever trial StableBit CloudDrive you must change the same setting in its json as well. good luck Edit: found the link: https://community.covecube.com/index.php?/topic/48-questions-regarding-hard-drive-spindownstandby/
  20. hello. in Scanner go to settings with the wrench icon > advanced settings and troubleshooting and on the first tab is where to bu/restore its settings. you may have to enable the avanced settings from the 'general' tab under 'Scanner settings...' first. it will create a zip file containing many json files and want to put it in 'documents' by default so just back it up elsewhere. after renaming drives in Scanner i stop the StableBit Scanner service, twiddle my thumbs for a sec or three, restart the service and GUI and and the custom names and locations are all saved (for me anyway). only then do i actually create the Scanner backup zip file. i haven't had to actually restore Scanner using this zip file yet but it seems like it will work (knock on wood). and i don't see how recent scan history would be saved using this method. saved from when the zip file was created maybe but anything truly recent is likely gone. it's probably a good idea to create a spreadsheet or text file etc. with your custom info ALONG WITH the serial number for each of your drives so if it happens again you can easily copy/paste directly into Scanner. i set up my C:\_Mount folder with SNs as well so i always know which drive is which should i need to access them directly. i have 2 UPSs as well. 1 for the computer, network equipment, and the RAID enclosure where qBittorent lives. the other runs my remaining USB enclosures where my BU drives and Drivepool live. even that is not fool-proof; if no one's home when the power dies, the one with all the enclosures will just run till the battery dies, as it's not controlled by any software like the one with the computer and modem etc, which is set to shut down Windows automatically/gracefully after 3 minutes. at least it will be disconnected from Windows before the battery dies and the settings will have a greater chance of being saved. if you have a UPS and it failed during your recent storm, all i can say is WOW bad luck. one of these or something similar is great for power outages: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PUQILCS/?coliid=I1XKMGSRN3M77P&colid=2TBI57ZR3HAW7&psc=1&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it saved my stuff once already. keep it plugged in an outlet near where you sleep and it will wake you up. hope this helps and perhaps others may benefit from some of this info as well. cheers
  21. hi. click the + sign on the left of the drive, then the green circular arrow and if bad blocks exist, the red circular arrow should be selectable from the dropdown. click it and then click the blue > button and i 'assume' Scanner will prioritize those blocks and scan only them if the rest of the drive is healthy (the sector map is neon green). a few months ago i had a weird power issue and i think the MFT was somehow corrupted on a couple of my BU drives, so the only blocks marked bad were the very first ones on the bottom right. i did the above and Scanner ran a chkdsk pass and cleaned them up very quickly. if you have actual damaged sectors deep in the drive YMMV. cheers
  22. hhmmm yes, seems a hierarchal pool was inadvertently/unintentionally created. i have no idea of your skill level so if you're not comfortable with any of the below... you should go to https://stablebit.com/Contact and open a ticket. in any event removing drives/pools from DrivePool in the DrivePool GUI should NEVER delete your files/data on the underlying physical drives, as any 'pooled drive' is just a virtual placeholder anyway. if you haven't already, enable 'show hidden files and folders.' then (not knowing what your balancing/duplication settings are), under 'Manage Pool ^ > Balancing...' ensure 'Do not balance automatically' IS checked, and 'Allow balancing plug-ins to force etc. etc...' IS NOT checked for BOTH pools. SAVE. we don't want DP to try to run a balance pass while resolving this. maybe take a SS of the settings on DrivePool (Y:) before changing them. so DrivePool (E:) is showing all data to be 'Other' and DrivePool (Y:) appears to be duplicated (x2). i say this based on the shade of blue; the 2nd SS is cut off before it shows a green 'x2' thingy (if it's even there), and drives Q & R are showing unconventional total space available numbers. the important thing here is that DP (E:) is showing all data as 'Other.' under the DrivePool (E:) GUI it's just as simple as clicking the -Remove link for DP (Y:) and then Remove on the confirmation box. the 3 checkable options can be ignored because DrivePool (E:) has no actual 'pooled' data in the pool and those are mostly evacuation options for StableBit Scanner anyway. once that's done DrivePool (E:) should just poof disappear as Y: was the only 'disk' in it, and the GUI should automatically switch back to DrivePool (Y:). at this point, i would STOP the StableBit DrivePool service using Run > services.msc (the DP GUI will disappear), then check the underlying drives in DrivePool (Y:) (drives P, Q, & R in File Explorer) for maybe an additional PoolPart.XXXXXXXX folder that is EMPTY and delete it (careful don't delete the full hidden PoolPart folders that contain data on the Y: pool). then restart the DP service and go to 'Manage Pool^ > Balancing...' and reset any changed settings back the way you had/like them. SAVE. if a remeasure doesn't start immediately do Manage Pool^ > Re-measure > Re-measure. i run a pool of 6 spinners with no duplication. this is OK for me because i am OCD about having backups. i have many USB enclosures and have played around some with duplication and hierarchal pools with spare/old hdds and ssds in the past and your issue seems an easy quick fix. i can't remember whether DP will automatically delete old PoolPart folders from removed hierarchal pools or just make them 'unhidden.' perhaps @Shane or @Christopher (Drashna) will add more. Cheers
  23. FWIW... current version WizTree 4.13 has support for DrivePool. https://diskanalyzer.com/download scroll down to changelog v4.13 to see all new changes. works great. 193,000 files in my pool and it took about 20secs to show them all.
  24. hi. in windows/file explorer enable 'show hidden files and folders.' then go to: https://wiki.covecube.com/Main_Page and bookmark for future reference. from this page on the left side click StableBit DrivePool > 2.x Advanced Settings. https://wiki.covecube.com/StableBit_DrivePool_2.x_Advanced_Settings if you are using BitLocker to encrypt your drives you will NOT want to do this, and will just have to live with the drive LEDs flashing and disc pings i assume. i don't use it so i don't know much about it. the given example on this page just happens to be the exact .json setting you need to change to stop DP from pinging your discs every ~5secs. set "BitLocker_PoolPartUnlockDetect" override value from null to false as shown. if StableBit CloudDrive is also installed you will need to change the same setting for it also. opening either of these json files, it just happens to be the very top entry on the file. you may need to give your user account 'full control' on the 'security' tab (right click the json > properties > security) in order to save the changes. this worked immediately for me, no reboot necessary. YMMV... good luck
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