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my two cents, you'll do fine with a desktop board, server boards are nice, and will give the benefit of better compatibility when it comes to drivers if running a server OS, but for the most part it comes down to budget. i just upgraded an Asus desktop board that I'd been running 24X7 for over two years, nothing wrong with the board, I just needed more sata, it was an ITX. got a new (old Z77 I found open box real cheap) asus board atx board and case, had to tweak the intel Nic (yes it has an Intel nic) driver to run on WHS 2011, but it was easy as folks figure out the issue a couple of years ago when the intel nic came out, just marketing ploy from intel so you don't buy a desktop board to run as a server. The proc, G3220, if there is even a remote possibility that you will need on the fly video transcoding, plex streaming video to mobile device=transcoding, then you really need to consider an I5, you can get by with a high end i3, but the i5 will only be a few bucks more and give you 4 real cores of processing.

thanks, wishful thinking on my part, guess I have a reason to stop using IE.

Hey Christopher, If a KB is released and causes some strange behavior with other programs is there a way to report to some one that will actually look into the problem? KB2977629 would constantly fight TMT 5 to be the active window, meaning the task bar, and any window not minimized would flash on the screen while watching a movie, quite annoying, and I narrowed it down to KB2977629, uninstalling fixed it. Here's a link to a youtube video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YCeG_YuWF0&feature=youtu.be

Create a hash digest of the hidden pool parts of each drive with exactfile, Or you can create a digest of the share, and when you lose a drive, run the digest check, and it will tell you what files are missing.

for ease of use, would definitely recommend using a drive letter somewhere near Z for DP or work your way backwards if Z is already taken, if you plug up USB drives and add new drives often, windows my highjack your drive letters. also, UNC files paths are easier to manage, one the one hand with DP, your data management is much easier, but a UNC path is going to make your life easier if you have to change drive letters for any reason. UNC path, note that your drive letter is irrelevant of what drive the share is stored on. \\servername\share\file_path instead of E:\share\file_path some applications that depend upon the drive as a letter may not be compatible, in the end its up to you and what works.

Agreed like a file inventory with hash, and a way to compare the inventory at various points in time, I'd buy it. I've brought this up a number times, for now your best bet is a file hash too like exact file or fileverifier++, both will create an export inventory of all your files.

IIRC, bad sectors info is stored in the HDD's smart stats, so any new data written to the drive would not be written to the the bad sector, this data is fed to the scanner as soon as the server boots. Bad sectors are ok, but you need to keep an eye on the drive in case the count starts to increase. And it could be coincidence of sorts with the bad cable on the drive with the bad sector. I ran in to an issue a while back with a new controller card that came with new cables, and had a lot of issues with drives dropping, etc, replaced the sata cables with some of the ones with the clips, all was good. Maybe it was the cable, or the connector its self was not making a good connection with the cable, IDK, I believe you can ignore the bad sector warnings, but again, make sure the counts are not increasing, which may be why your still getting the warnings.

I had every intention of buying a copy or two for same keeping prior to it going EOL around the holidays last year, completely forgot, great OS, even better OS for the money, I paid, in the $30 range for the two copies I'm running. What a shame. I received a coupon in June from Newegg, 20% off all MS Server OS's, would have been a good deal to get WSE 2012 R2, but I didn't really have a need to upgrade.

glad the fix worked for you, and good to know that it works on this particular drive.

I hope you have a back up set, if so you should be able to do a restore of only the missing files.

I don't recall if you can disable it completely, but extending it to 5 minutes solves the issues.

Naw, I powered off, added new drive, booted up, new drive was there, initialized as GPT, quick format, rebooted, long format, I left for work, and then noticed the temp, restarted remotely, and it all looks good, Yeah, I'm thinking this drive is going to run a little warm at 7200, but performance has it's price

Hey, just installed a new HGST 7.2k NAS drive, well, it finished the extended formatting, took about 9 hours, and scanner has been running for maybe 30 minutes, well, the Temp in Scanner has been 86 F all day, while the drives on either side of it are currently 102.2 and 105.8, and nothing is really going on with those drives, so I'm fairly certain, my new HGST is heating those up, and there's no way my HGST drive is 86F. and it got me thinking that my SSD, which has perpetually been 86 degrees for the last several months, that maybe the data on these two drive is not being polled correctly. Forgot I had PerfectDisk installed, it's showing 111F on the HGST 7.2k NAS drive. Edit, Well, just did a reboot, all is well, scratching my head on this one.

This goes against Christopher's advice, but I have a "newer" green drive, and it was not on the WD compatibility list, but it worked fine for me. You can run the tool as describe in the instructions, and see if the drive is recognized by the tool, that's the only way to tell. as far as making the changes, proceed at your on risk, but the drive will slowly kill it's self, if you don't/can't change the time out feature. Just make sure you back up it before you attempt to make any changes. If this is being used as a data drive (not OS drive) there's a tool you can down load that writes data to the drive every 8 seconds, or what ever you set it too, to prevent the heads from parking, http://keepalivehd.codeplex.com/, I've being using this tool for about a year for a second pool I have using 2 1TB HGST 2.5 drives

5 minutes is the max, but I believe the value is in seconds. I'm not sure if the tool works with your drive, but it never hurts to check, even if your drive is not listed in their compatibility chart, it may still work. I was going to get a black 2.5" drive from my OS drive, and decided against it for this very reason.

WD Green drive, right? You can ignore it, as its just a count of how many times the heads are loaded/parked, and it's a common issue with WD Greens, make sure you change the idle timer with wdidel3, http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?groupid=609&sid=113. but definitely keep an eye on the drive and if it happens to be under warranty, I would suggest trying to get a replacement.

I'd be inclined to use the manufacture drivers, especially when it comes the chipset and controllers to name a few. They typically offer additional functionally over the standard MS drivers, I can't comment on better performance, performance is relative depending on your hardware anyway. just my 2 cents.

Your 100% correct, these drives (enclosures) have funky controllers in them, if you pulled a 3 or 4tb drive from the enclosure, you'll see that there are multiple partitions on the drive, while connected to the controller, you only see one. I've initialized 4 drives latest year, 2 4TB hitachi, 1 4TB seagate, and 1 3 TB WD, all drives after creating a single partition, GPT, format, etc, running scanner, while connected via usb 3, stressing the drives before pulling them from the case, but when connected via a sata I had any where from 3-5 separate partitions.

agreed, this feature will make you stand out a bit, not quite ZFS, but close enough.

If all your drives are identical, then this is no help, but I have a hodgepodge of drives, some faster than others, and depending where DP places the data, this often determines the transfer speed, slow drives are around 60-70, faster drives are around 90 and up.

I'm running two of HGST coolspins right now that I jail broke from an external enclosure, I have 1 year and 150 days on one of them, and 297 days on the other, both have been running 24x7, your mileage may vary, i'm not convinced the NAS drives are any different mechanically, they may have different firmware but on the other hand, the 4tb NAS drive have come down in price by roughly $50 since they came out last year, so they are more affordable, your call,

I just completed a some sales training for Veeam Backup, and the 3-2-1 strategy was on the test, lol. I was not aware of this feature, this is good to know.

+1, I'm a drive Whore, if they are on sale, I buy them, most of mine are jail broken from external enclosures. I have WD greens (with the headparking extended via WDidle3) and red's (1tb 2.5") , Seagate, Hitach and Samsung. No issues with any of them, had some fail, but no issues with DP.

I'm not a tech guy by trade, just on the weekends, and maybe I've read too many articles on bit rot, file corruption, etc, but how do you know when this occurs? I put in some checks in place to help flag these issues should they occur. Maybe I'm a little anal, but i'm the CIO and CTO of the family, I lose those pictures, and I'm in big trouble. lol. So if the original file becomes corrupt, would drive pool not just duplicate this new, bad file? OP, I apologize for hijacking your thread, but at the very least I hope this information is beneficial.

Agreed. most backup tools, especially those for home use that are affordable, will not touch a file that has not been "modified" since the last backup,which is why I went with syncback, as part of the backup profile for my irreplaceable data, it compares the hash of each file on the server to the hash of the file in the backup set, a new hash is generated at each backup from both sources, again, this is another check to ensure the data does not change over time with out me knowing. doubles the backup time, even when there is no new data, but it gives me that warm and fuzz feeling.