rtech73

I put this in the emergency "contact" thread, but thought I'd post here as well. I woke up Wednesday to a freshly updated WIn10 server, with the Fall Creator's Update. Everything seemed fine, except my Pool is GONE. The drives are all still there, they even show up in the DrivePool "app" but they show as "non-pooled". I thought, well, what if I just recreate the pool. Adding a drive to a "new pool" says "error - cannot add the same disc to a pool". So, I have 21 discs in a 32TB drive pool (all my family media) and it's all inaccessible as of course that means my "P" drive is gone (my pool drive). The data is all still on the discs, but the pool has become broken in some way. Any ideas? Thanks!

When I try to edit which folders are duplicated and which are not, all I can seem to get asked is whether I want to enable duplication at all or not. From the screen which shows my current status of folder duplication, I can't seem to remember how to CHANGE any of it! (It's been awhile since I've had to really do anything to the server!) Thanks! Never mind. I realized that when I click "change duplication" it is actually asking me about the highlighted folder. It's not the most clear UI that could probably be there for this. :-)

OK, so eventually this was going to happen - I have lots of drives, and one finally malfunctioned so bad that it froze up my system. Removing the offending drive brought everything back to life, except now I of course have a "missing" drive. Upon rebooting the machine, I "removed" the "missing" drive. What should I expect the process to be? Keep in ming this is a 25TB pool with 16 drives, so I know that this is probably a multi day process (the drive that died was a 1.5TB drive). When I went to bed last night it said "measuring" which I expected. Woke up this morning and the system is "balancing". Would my files that were on the drive that went bad now be listed as "unduplicated" and the reduplicating is part of the rebalancing process? I've never actually had a drive go bad spontaneously without warning, so never seen what DrivePool goes through to compensate for a drive that is suddenly gone.

Glad to hear that it'll be priority. Windows 10 is REALY good and excited to get my server upgraded to it (and all my other PC's - you can't beat FREE!)

Just a question of clarification before I jump in. (I *love* this cloud drive concept and am excited to implement it!) Is OneDrive personal currently NOT supported? Is this because of the goofy way it's implemented currently in Windows 8.1 with the placeholders? As OneDrive is my primary cloud storage (with my Office 365 I of course get unlimited storage there!) I'm excited to be able to not only get it off of it's own drive (since I can't even put it on a pool right now) but to actually integrate it INTO my pool!) What's the status prognosis for OneDrive? Thanks, guys! Been using DrivePool since build 475 and so cool to see it has come SO far!!

Good evening! Going to start using Google Photos (newly announced, and it's good!) for my photos/videos. I have sufficient data here to warrant wanting to put this stuff on my pool. However, based on my experience with OneDrive, I know that sometimes these cloud services don't always play nice with DrivePool. Can anyone tell me whether or not Google Drive works with DrivePool? A second question slightly related... If it doesn't work, and I go to put my Google Drive on one of my larger drives (which is part of the pool, but the data would be outside the pool) will I have to manually remove pooled data from the drive if I need to make room for non-pooled data, or will be balancer do that on its own as the amount of available space for the pool on the drive slowly decreases? (I have it set to have an equal percentage full on each drive).

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Totally agreed. I had a couple of USB enclosures. Eliminated all of them due those very problems... I do have two TR5M enclosures connected via eSATA. Fortunately my server lives in the crawl space basement, and have never had a problem with disconnecting, especially since no one ever comes near the thing except me!

Hey, thanks for your perspective on this! Just for good measure, I moved some drives around so that this big drive was inside the main box and not in one of the external enclosures. Everything worked just fine! Thanks for the tip!!!

Yes, I can get to the $RECYCLE.BIN folder using the process you describe. The problem is, none of the files or directories DrivePool is complaining about are in there! That's what's frustrating me.

Yep, I bought a 180GB SSD just for this (and also, susequently, for my OneDrive folder, as DP doesn't like that in its current implementation either!). Works like a champ!

I"m curious as to the final culprit for this problem and how the problem was diagnosed. I had this issue happen last night and it turned out that a drive that I new was going bad finally was problematic enough to make the entire pool (and ultimately the system) unresponsive as described here. I was lucky in that I knew to check that drive first and remove it, but I wonder what I would have done if I had not known that....

Good evening! After a death of 2 TB drives (see other post) I have replaced them with a single 4TB drive (the server has 20 drives, so I have plenty of duplication potential). I've never used a drive this size. Are there any potential problems I may face by using a 4TB drive? It will likely be going into an external eSATA enclosure (a T5BM). I have used up to 3TB before with no issues, but I know that sometimes new thresholds bring new challenges to the surface. Thanks!

I had a drive die last night, kind of took the whole pool drive with it (in that it would essentially bog down or even lock up the system when the pool was accessed). I knew which drive was the culprit, removed it and the DrivePool took care of the rest and everything is now fine. To me, all the above is negated by simply having everything duplicated (and telling it not to put ANY unduplicated files on any drives showing SMART errors, or anything else). When I removed the drive (which I had to do by force and have DP recover from a "missing" drive), of course the system knew what I was missing because there was a duplicate copy of it elsewhere!) Of course, to do that, I have 20 drives! :-) I guess I'm just curious why one would go through all the trouble of having a list of files, when you could just duplicate everything on the pool? (I don't mean this as judgmental or anything, I'm actually curious as to the rationale!) As far as my own drive dying, it was a PERFECT example of "the system works". Huzzah for DrivePool!

I have not been able to figure out how to rectify this problem (it's been bugging me for months!). Link hopefully leads to a screen shot (really sorry about the lame way of doing this!) Any ideas?? Thanks! https://www.dropbox.com/s/efe9zo1i4qwu8y4/2015-04-14%2017.53.21.jpg?dl=0

If it matters, Drivepool is not working with the current release of the Windows 10 TP. The pool is recognized by the DrivePool interface, but throws errors trying to access it from file explorer. I was hoping it would work, as the implementation of OneDrive in 8.1 is very problematic (the placeholders cause issues). I have a 30TB pool (it's a bit of overkill, but I had a lot of hard drives!) with 10 internal and 2 TR5M external SATA enclosures and Windows 8.1 otherwise works just fine. WHS2011 just gave me too much trouble in trying to do things beyond just serving up files. I seem to recall PLEX not liking it too much.

I looked at storage spaces. When a drive needs to be removed, it's awful. Stayed away from it. For now I'm just using my 1TB in dropbox and keeping my OneDrive on a 256GB SSD. I wonder... could you put a .vhd on the pool and put OneDrive on that? Akin to the trick of putting a .vhd on an SD drive on a Windows tablet. As a side note, I tried installing Windows 10 T.P. No dice. It won't properly mount the pool (clicking the drive letter shows "error - incorrect paramter" or something like that.) There are some really nice things about that placeholder technology, but boy, it causes a LOT of problems. Ultimately glad they ditched it for Win 10.

In upgrading my server, I found myself having to "take ownership" of the entire pool drive. The pool is now "Balancing" after switching out a couple of drives, but I have a feeling that this may given me "access" to those files. If not, I may be back for further ideas!

DARN! I'm so glad you replied as I would have kept fighting with this thing! The symptoms thrown by putting OneDrive on the Pool directly resemble other issues that are around the forums. Is this something that will be fixed/worked on? This information took my server from the machine that would have ALL my OneDrive data to none of it (I have a small OS drive and everything else is pool). Getting 20TB of storage on DropBox will be considerably more expensive! :-) It is perhaps the placeholder files that are causing the problem? I know they took those out in the latest builds of Windows 10 (thinking about trying that out instead just for fun). Thanks again for being quick on the reply! You saved me lots of continued headache! Really hoping this can be made to work on DrivePool eventually... Best way to take advantage of all that online storage!

Hey, thanks for the reply! I think the hardest part so far is FINDING these files! The recycle bin is empty. Not sure where do look... Once I find them, I can probably delete them (I've been resetting permissions on my pool most of the day, I created some problems making and switching accounts trying to get OneDrive to work)... SO nice to have this resource when you need it!

I have an Office 365 account and want to use OneDrive for online storage. I have a Windows 8.1 "server" at home with a 25TB pool. I recently reinstalled the OS (I had Windows 7 before, and was thinking that my problem getting OneDrive to sync properly was that it was using the Windows 7 client). Now, with Windows 8.1 it seems that the problem is even worse and I'm wondering if it may be DrivePool that's the problem. I read somewhere that putting OneDrive into the root of the Pool was a bad idea. So, I created a root folder "Cloud Storage" and put my OneDrive folder in there (using the "Location" tab under the properties Menu). Files were there previously on the Pool. Everything seemed to Move OK. I then copied several folders of Pictures to the pool and nothing would sync. What I have discovered is that OneDrive is actually immediately crashing upon boot. There is no syncing happening whatsoever. I really want my server to be sort of the "home base" for my OneDrive storage (so that I have a local copy of everything at least in one place!). I'm thinking about first deleting everything in the OneDrive folder and seeing if that will force a redownload of everything. That would assume that it will no longer crash. . . Any ideas or tricks to get OneDrive to behave on DrivePool? Thanks!

Wish I'd read this first before spending the two days trying to copy all 1.2 million files/folders to the pool! I eventually just installed a small SSD just for this, so that any future OS installations won't require a complete database rebuild.

Good afternoon! I just upgraded my server from Windows 7 to 8.1 I was hoping one of the issues I was having would go away, but it has not. I reinstalled the OS (with pool disconnected). The reappearance of the pool seems to have gone just fine and all files are accessible. I'm having a problem with OneDrive (the primary reason for the upgrade, but I'll put that in a different post). When DrivePool is done "checking" the pool I always end up with errors about duplication. It says that files cannot be duplicated and the files listed are all beginning with \\$RECYCLE... (followed by long strings of characters and eventually ending with file names. It says access denied. There is nothing I can seem to do to get this error to go away. Any ideas? Thanks!

Good evening! Been a Drivepool user since build 575. It's been the backbone of my home server/media infrastructure since leaving WHS v1 as I needed duplication. Used WHS2011 w/ Drivepool for quite awhile... Then, a year or so ago I built a new server, but at the time decided on putting Windows 7 on it as 8 just didn't seem ready for prime time in my house. Since then all of my machines have 8.1, I find it to be very useful, superior to Windows 7 and I want to now upgrade my server as well. Is there any reason that I should not expect DrivePool and Scanner to withstand an in place upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 8.1? It should probably be mentioned that I have a 24 disk pool with 3 external eSATA enclosures and 10 internal drives. :-) Thanks!

I'll try that! I actually uninstalled Scanner, and things are behaving normally now. I'll reinstall and throttle back the SMART as you suggest. THANK YOU! I'll report back the results. :-)