dslabbekoorn
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Drasha,
So you're saying stop the service, move (cut) the contents of the client backup folder to a temporary folder in the hidden "PoolPart.xxxx" folder, then move the folder itself via the dashboard and put the contents back in it. The main idea is the empty folder will move much faster. I use TeraCopy and can move the bulk of the folder contents much faster than Drivepool can. Am I getting this right? The current drive it's on is a 2tb usb 3.0 drive not in the pool, the other 8.5tb are the pool itself.
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So had I in WHS2011, only have had problems since moving to WSE 2012. Not sure what you mean about "restart the database (move the location, but not the files)" How would that work? I have tried resetting permissions on the pool once before while troubleshooting this to no effect. Should I try just copying the files over to the pool and then move the "empty" client backup folder over to the pool then put the file back in it? The move folder option in drivepool is painfully slow for me, taking 36 - 48 hours to move the folder over to the pool or back. I know something in drivepool's move function points the server at the folders new location, but is there a shortcut way to move it back and forth to make trying things out easier? How does the server know where the folder is anyway, I have never set a setting to tell it? Maybe cut and paste with "telling" the server where the folder is now, will work better than the more orthodox "move folder" function. I can copy to and from locations on the server at up to 80mb/sec. Might be worth a try, had weirder things work on computers before.
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Arrgh! 2 good backups of all 3 computers and then then dreaded failure after 15 seconds and nothing but since then. Going to put the folder back on it's own drive again to get it working. Thought it was licked after the 2nd backup worked, started to get error or blank pages about the backup info then the backups failed. Checked the logs and it's the same errors and failures as before. Sent in logs and the error collection as mentioned above before, can again if you think they'll help. So close but no cigar.
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Yea! Took nearly 36 hours to copy the folder over to the pool, but it works!!! True the folder was 1.5TB, but shouldn't it have gone a little faster? Completed the 1st backup today, my wife's desktop over WiFi, without a hitch. Going to let the rest go overnight by themselves. Don't know what you guys tweaked or fixed, but it works in the pool now. Now I can stop worrying about the folder size. Thanks again for all your hard work on this and everything that's gone into ver. 2.
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It's been a month, so I thought I'd check in to see if anyone was having any luck with the client backup folder in the pool. As mine is about 1.5 TB, it takes overnight just to move it back in the pool, 30 seconds to fail the backup, and then overnight again to move it back to it's own drive. Like to avoid all that if it's still being problematic. I'm on the newest version but haven't tried it lately. Any word on success out there?
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Anything new on this topic? Last I heard Microsoft knew of the problem and was investigating whether or not they wanted to try and fix it, I don't think it is something Alex can fix completly on his own as it seem to effect all databases that are attemped to be used/stored on the pool. In other words it's a Windows issue, not working as advertised, imagine that. I love WSE 2012 as it is the most stable and best working "home" server to date. Now if they could fix the client back-up folder in the pool issue, it would be great. My separate back-up drive is still ok but I don't like getting close to capacity on any drive, I have tons of room in the pool that won't work and "only" 500 gb left on the backup drive.
Dave
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Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
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A bit off the usual topic but I wanted to share this with the community as I've had such good luck with it. It is MoCA, it stands for multimedia over coax alliance. Practically, this is an adapter that connects to your router and bridges Ethernet to coax, a second adapter, wherever you need a fast and stable network signal converts it back to Ethernet. This will work with any coax network, so if your house is wired for cable, it's now wired for 100mbs Ethernet. The signal is solid, strong and fast. I stream 1080p from my server in my office upstairs to the xbmc in my living room through several splitters. Could not get it to work consistently with wireless and now it's as smooth as butter, no buffering, no stutter. The only thing that seems to be a problem is a cable/coax amplifier between the sending and receiving units. A little re-wiring for me and it worked fine. Install is plug and play. Coax is pass thru the adapter and it has an Ethernet jack out to your device or switch if you have more than on at the location. Hooked it up and the network picked it up in seconds and I was good to go. They cost about $45 each, you usually need 2, some devices for example the newer TiVo's and some TV's and Blu Ray players are set up for it already with an internal adapter. None of my stuff was.
The MoCA trade group is sponsored by some big names in computers, networking and cable so this is no fly by night start up. Adapters are just coming on line but are available through most major retailers though you have to look for them as they are so new. Best one seems to be from ActionTec (new version out this year), followed by Netgear and D-link. Got mine from Best Buy through a marketplace partner for $109 for the pair. Current network speed being reported is 80 mbs on average, more than enough for high def streaming. The big plus is the stability of the signal, no blips or anything has been seen so far through online gaming and streaming high def movies over the network. I am giving the links I used to check this out and order below, this is worth checking out if you are wired for cable, always wanted to have hard wired Ethernet but didn't want to tear up the house, and find wireless a bit lacking. I use 2 ghz splitters in my cable wiring and the run to my cable modem is kept separate to avoid any interference. Sorry if this has run a little long and sounds like a sales pitch, but I am really liking these things, they just work and work well. Plus they saved me from hard wiring my house or having to put up with my wife's rolled eyes every time a streamed movie stops and goes "Buffering". Check out the links below and see if maybe this will work for you. Thanks for all the drivepool help I have received here, hopefully this can be a bit of pay back.
Dave
Links:
- imxjihsk, meeldilla and Tardas-Zib
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Well after 18 hours the folder is back on its own drive and working as it should again. I thought the size had ballooned from 575 gb to 1.25 tb but that was operator error and late night math. It's still the same size, just confused used and free space, windows = used, drivepool = free in their display.. I still can't figure out why it fails but its getting further now than before. Come on MS, WHS2011 worked in the pool for years (until an update busted it) why can't WSE2012? Well, as Microsoft "famously" said "large hard drives are cheap". (unless the factory floods
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OK, client backup folder is now back in the pool and a backup started. Lo and behold, it has reached 7% and climbing as I type. Never even got started before. Seems like, just maybe, perhaps, fingers crossed, this problem may be fixed with the latest beta v312.
I realize I'm probably jinxing myself, but I think we have a winner here. I'll know for sure in about an hour or so. Backup is now at 12%, yea! I knew I'd jinx it, backup failed at about 15%, with "Backup did not complete because a problem interrupted the connection to the server" I'll pull the server and client logs and see if I can find an error to explain this. I'll let it go overnight to see if the automatic backup works at midnight. It was a manual backup that failed.Dave
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Updated to the most recent version and hope to try the client backup folder in the pool thing again to see if there is any change. Just wish the move folder did not take so long. Backups in it are around 675 GB. Takes the dashboard routine a while (up to 12 hours) to move it all.
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Just to bring up our previous comments on storage spaces and MS's half baked release of it, you might like to check out this (painfully) humorous exchange on Technet's WSE2012 forum. Poor guy seems to have lost 11TB & his server on belief of MS advertising claims. The we buried the approved hardware list part was especially wince inducing. Seems the official approved hardware to work with it is 1) large and 2) expensive. So much for the SOHO market.
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Good news always makes me feel better, and thank you Alex (and others) for your time and help with this.
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The end user gets it again, in the end.
My "fix" of using the non-pool drive is working fine.
I await word from those who know more than me, good luck with the bug hunting.
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Moved client backup folder back to pool, instant fail. Moved it back to non-pooled usb drive, success. Tracer logs and windows client & server logs sent to support. This is weird and seems to be related to the known bug in WSE2012 that it can not backup to a storage space pool and now seems to be exhibiting that problem with drivepool pools and drivebender pools as well. MS is "aware of the problem and is working on it", since November, according to post all over Technet forums. Bad QA on a $500 commercial OS that touted storage space as a premium feature. OK, off soapbox now, hope support can track this down. I'm stumped.
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Client and Server logs sent to support as requested. They want me to activate tracer in drivepool and move the client backup folder back to the pool, run a backup, let it fail, and send logs from all to them again. I will try to do this tonight, been a little busy. Backups to the external usb drive have been proceeding without fail for 4 days now. Hope we can figure this out. More later.
Dave
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I have a rock solid setup with WSE2012 using drivepool. Only problem is if the client backup folder is in the pool, all backups fail within seconds with the WSS service shuting down and restarting. Obviously this kills any backup running. I have read in numerouis forums that storage spaces has a "bug" that will not allow the client backup folder to be in the pool or all backups will fail to start. The reported error logs, while not very helpful, are exactly what I am seeing.. Except that I am not uising storage spaces, I am running the latest drivepool version. To test this out, I moved the client backup folder off the pool to a usb drive I just acquired and bam, all backups work first time I click start. No errors or problems. I moved the folder back to the pool and instant fail. I have read her and on the old forum of others running with the folder in the pool and having no problems. I am not sure if anyone is running Windows Server 2012 Essentials or not, maybe they are all on WHS2011. But i Thought that Drivepool was compatible with WSE2012. Has anyone else had this issue? Any info or ideas would be appreciated, I am backing up 4 computers and the capacity of the pool is much desired. If I have to get a dedicated 3TB drive to hold my backups and keep it off the pool that will be a drag. DP works fine for all other uses, media library, photo storage and such, but the backups would be a swwet icing to the cake. I had the folder in the pool for years with WHS2011. Help please?
Backup server to cloud drive, advice & suggestions?
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My WSE 2012 set up works great, backing everyone of my 4 computers up each day and serving my media and software files across the network. The only thing (other than an inability to have the client backup folder in the pool (sigh)) that I haven't yet set up is the server backup itself. I would ideally like to set it up to backup to an offsite (cloud) file service. I have almost zero experience with cloud backups and could use any advice you may have. Can WSE 2012 be set up to back the server up to the cloud/ Which services are best/cheapest? Any problems with using one? I realize not having the server backed up is a big security risk and that reminds me, what about data security for the stuff sent out to the "cloud"? I'd like to keep my data private as possible. I would be backing up only the server installation/drive itself and not all my terabytes of data. Any advice is apprecieated, Thanks.
Dave