Umfriend
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I would not know. My guess is, however, that it will work. I assume Goodsync is a file-based solution that will try to read from NTFS volumes and, AFAIK, DrivePool pools present themselves as just that.
You might want to backup the OS-drive using the built in Server Backup anyway. Just soooo much easier to rebuild that way in case of an OS-drive failure or update screwup etc.
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There are file placement rules you can implement but I know nothing about those. Drashna will tell, I'm sure. Just be aware that you *might* have to monitor the usage of the, say, "primary" HDD because when that one fills up, x2 duplicated files may still end up, I believe, on HDD2 and HDD3. Also, AFAICS, you could only take either the "primary" HDD offsite (and not have backups until it is back) or all other 3 HDDs (because only then are you sure you have a full set of files).
Alternatively, if you can live with just x2 duplication, you could create 2 Pools of 2 x 3TB HDDs and just backup one HDD of each Pool. That is what I would do. You can always take 1 or 2 HDDs offsite (1 from each Pool).
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Rofl! ...and be riddled with guilt...
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Just wondering, if there is a pending reboot issue here, would a regedit help? Much like the solution to Connector issues with clients?
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I kinda forgot what it was that you were going to do with the Server, would you mind restating that? It seems way overpowered for a home server but it should last you 30 years.
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@romans, if you're using WHS2011 and want to backup the data with WHS2011 Server Backup, then I suggest you read up on the thread at covecube, got some info for you.
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@romans1136: _IF_ you are running WHS2011 and want to use WHS2011 Server Backup, then do _not_ create volumes larger than 2TB. You may create DrivePool Pools larger than 2TB because WHS2011 Server Backup does not backup Pools anyway. You can only backup the underlying disks.
Furthermore, if you're going to use (a) more than two disks in a Pool, and (
duplication (less than the number of disks/volumes/partitions in the Pool), then you can not know where the files are and therefore need to backup _all_ volumes/partitions.Assuming you want to use x2 duplication, my advice then would be:
1. Create six 2TB partitions, 2 on each 4TB HDD
2. Create 3 Pools of 2x2TB, each with duplication. Pairing should be such that you do not have a Pool consisting of two partitions on one HDD so:
2a. HDD1_P1 and HDD2_P2
2b. HDD2_P1 and HDD3_P2
2c. HDD3_P1 and HDD1_P2
This _can_ all be backed up by WHS2011 Server Backup and the way to do it is to backup HDDx_P1s, not the HDDx_P2s because they all contain duplicates.
It is a bit of a hassle but I see no other way around it. Also, you might need 6TB or 8TB Server Backup HDDs...
@Drashna: I have never heard of WHS2011 Server Backup having issues with AF (4Kn/512e) drives _as long as they are connected to a SATA port_, only with such drives connected through USB but if you are aware of such cases I would really like to know.
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Sounds to me it is time to run some CHKDSKs and do you have Scanner as well?
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No, there is no fix for the >2TB issue. There is a workaround by which WHS2011 Server Backup will backup a volume that is > 2TB in size but only if the actual contents is < 2TB. Else it will fail. I can't remember what the workaround was or where I read it but it required a registry key change. In any case, there is _no_ way in which you can have WHS2011 Server Backup backup a 3TB volume with more than 2TB of data on it.
In any case, IMHO, in w WHS2011 system, you do not want > 2TB partitions/volumes. Mind you, WHS2011 Server Backup _will_ backup more than 2TB of data, just not single volumes/partitions in excess of 2TB.
Edit: If you really want to keep the 3TB partition (which I would strongly advise against) then maybe this can help: https://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/c0c0ecb1-7d48-4eb7-8c7f-7abea3794328/client-backups-and-server-backups-over-2tb?forum=whsvailbeta
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And also, how much space is used by each server folder, that is what I am missing with 2.x Next weekend I'll upgrade to 1.x.
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Yeah, but also in the Server Folders and Hard Drives tab IIRC
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Kewl, I think I'll go back to 1.x then as I seem to remember the dashboard would show datausage by shared folder or something.
Just uninstalling 2.x and installing 1.x, right? License will remain without having to de-activate as it is in one and the same machine?
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It's been so long since I used 1.x on my WHS2011 box, does it support more than one Pool like 2.x does?
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I have DLed the tech preview of W10 Server because I know at some stage I'll have to migrate from WHS2011 and this is a good way to learn (I also have an old spare PC I'll use as a client). But I have to say, sofar, a lot of mumbo jumbo for me that, as a home user, I'm not sure I should be interested in. That is the gr8 thing about WHS2011: As long as you can live with its limitations, it is _really_ simple to use and maintain IMHO. Yes, it can only do 8GB, but who cares? (I do, different story). For a home server it should not matter. Yes, it has a certain 2 TB limit but that is managable for quite some time in fact. I can have 6TB of data and an OS drive and back it all up using Server Backup. No, it does not do VM.
Other than that, it is really easy and that is what I like. Client backups/file restore/full restore: check. File sharing: check. Media serving: check. Torrenting: check. Server backup+restore: check. Little need for Server specific knowledge, DNS stuff, AD stuff, no need to use hacks to make it simple: check.
I hope I'll be able to run WHS2011 for another 10 years in fact.
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So, is there a beta for this yet? I still have a duplicated file that is different on both HDDs (by design) to test it on. Sorry to be a pain but this would really be a great feature/product IMHO.
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The APU's may be waste for that, because the gfx chipset aren't being used AT ALL really.
Agreed but I am trying to avoid an Intel vs AMD fanboyz debate. Let's just say the A10 do well for a Server? I used to be an AMD fanboy and LOLled at the Pentium 4s and their heat issues. But Intel has come a long long way since then and well, I changed sides and will remain here until a better product comes along.
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LOL. Yeah. I am sure that the A10 5800 can run all that easily.
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Not sure how 6.8W and 24W or 32W and 66W are very similar but, OK! Of course, once you have a setup, it would be insane to change it just because of this but for selecting a new one if you had to, I'd not go AMD for any server and for desktops only under rather specific circumstances.
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Ok so I logged in after I remembered the password lol also the chip is AMD A10 5800k APU
Loaded up the Asus EPU software it says the CPU watt was around 33 watts tho this did shoot up and down depending on what I did so loading program's up it went to around 66 watts then back down to around 33 watts lowest was 24 watts after about 5 mins idle. The temperature was a steady 39c went up a few degrees while under load also I went into the APC 2200 UPs and it should only a 12% load can't tell how many watts that is but that seems low that also supply's power to other stuff too
Anything you want to know I'll try find out
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OK, I have an ASRock MB and monitor with their Extreme Tuning Utility and CPUID HWMOnitor.
It is an underclocked and undervolted i7-3770, 4 cores, 8 threads, running at 3.1Ghz (CPU voltage offset -100mV and iGPU voltage offset -50mV). It usually runs at 100% as it does Rosetta@Home. It gets to between 40 and 45 degrees Clesius depending on summer/winter. CPUID says it uses at most 31.28W....
If I suspend R@H, it nearly idles. It currently idles at 25C and CPUID says max 6.8W...
This is a prior generation but otherwise 2x i3-4370 CPU. Pretty sure it'll do even better.
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Well, I am sure it'll be able to run what you have running on it but I would wonder about power consumption indeed.
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What are you going to do with it? I would not advise AMD APUs other than for specific situations and a server is not one of them.
I run Plex and Subsonic, both of which transcode video (and audio). I also run VMs (2-3 at any given time). So the Xeon e3 I'm running is very useful.
Well, Serviio can do transcoding as well but, given my devices, it typically does not have to. Are you sure your media files require transcoding?
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4 HD streams? I can not know for sure but I have no doubt it can. Can it do 4 HD streams with transcoding? I think not but I wonder whether even an i7 can do that for HD content. Mind you, most streaming, AFAIK, is simply pushing data to DLNA devices which is mostly, I would think, HDD and network I/O.
Is there a good reason to look at higher end CPUs? SURE! Cause it is fun! Take an Intel® Xeon® Processor E5-2630L v3 (20M Cache, 1.80 GHz) for instance, $600 bucks but you get 16 threads! Sure, they are slower cores @1.8Ghz but still get a single thread passmark score of some 1500, better than your Phenom!.
My advice:
- If money is no objection, slam an i7-4770 or similar in the server but get a MB that can do some underclocking/undervolting if you run jobs like BOINC projects.
- If money is an objection but not that much, get an i3-4330. If it turns out to really fall short of what you need (which I would think is very unlikely), sell it and get the i7. Wasted a bit of money but a lesson is learned: you can only get by with the best.
- If money is an objection, get an i3-4330 (or a fast Pentium/Celeron, but the saving is really not that big). If it turns out to really fall short of what you need (which I would think is very unlikely), then you're SOL: You simply can not afford what you need.
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http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Phenom+II+X4+945&id=7
3757 and 1047 single thread
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-4360+%40+3.70GHz&id=2244
5558 and 2172 single thread and that at less than half the TDP. I'd suspect the i3 would smoke the X4... The only area I can imagine the X4 doing better is where you have three or four concurrent single threaded heavy integer jobs. Maybe, just maybe but probably not.
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I donnow but if you're not using RDBMS, not crunching BOINC projects, not doing games, not doing video-editing but just streaming (and not to 4+ clients or so) then I can not imagine a i3-4360 not meeting the requirements. I had a Celeron G630 or G530 running WHS2011. It did shares, client backups, web server, rosetta@home, utorrent and streaming of video (through Serviio, not sure whether it ever had to transcode) to two devices simultaneously and never had any hickup. Really, if the i3 is not enough then you are using the Server for stuff != Server. I run a i7-3770 now but that's just cause I like to brag and run 8 Rosetta@Home threads at the same time.
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Seems like a kick-ass system :jealous: