Jump to content

Katz777

Members
  • Posts

    4
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Reputation Activity

  1. Like
    Katz777 reacted to andrewds in How to have drives go to sleep while the StableBit DrivePool service is running?   
    Is that true? I asked for clarity on this exactly several days ago but never got a response.
  2. Like
    Katz777 reacted to andrewds in How to have drives go to sleep while the StableBit DrivePool service is running?   
    @Katz777I just went through this recently after setting it up several months ago. I use Scanner, DrivePool, and CloudDrive. I had to update my Scanner settings not to query SMART more often than once per hour, and not to wake drives to query. I also had to disable BitLocker detection in the JSON config file. I didn't need to do anything with CloudDrive. Once I made those changes and a couple of Windows config changes everything worked fine.
    Last time I updated DrivePool the BitLocker detection flag was reset to default and the drives wouldn't sleep anymore.
    I did need to enable options 13 and 15 as described in this post in order to set the power options that worked for me. https://www.thewindowsclub.com/configure-hidden-power-options-in-windows-10
  3. Like
    Katz777 reacted to Shane in How to have drives go to sleep while the StableBit DrivePool service is running?   
    To quote Christopher from that thread, "StableBit DrivePool pulls the directory list for the pool directly from the disks, and merges them in memory, basically.  So if you have something that is scanning the folders, you may see activity."
    There may be some directory/file list caching going on in RAM, whether at the Windows OS and/or DrivePool level, but DrivePool itself does not keep any form of permanent (disk-based, reboot-surviving) record of directory contents.
  4. Like
    Katz777 reacted to andrewds in How to have drives go to sleep while the StableBit DrivePool service is running?   
    To quote my response to Christopher:
    " If I'm understanding the rest of your explanation correctly, you're saying that anytime the application needs to retrieve a file from any disk in the pool all of the disks will wake up from sleep so that DrivePool can determine upon which disk a file is residing in order to deliver it back to the application. Is that correct?"
    Your response still doesn't answer it clearly. Is there caching or isn't there? Will the drives wake up any time there is an application that needs to retrieve a file from any disk, or does DrivePool mitigate that somehow? Should I expect to see disk activity on all disks any time a file on a single disk is retrieved or are there times when DrivePool can deliver file location information without waking every disk?
  5. Like
    Katz777 reacted to Shane in How to have drives go to sleep while the StableBit DrivePool service is running?   
    At least when testing on my own machines there is caching going on - but my opinion is that's being done by Windows since caching file system queries is part of a modern operating system's job description and having DrivePool do it too seems like it would be redundant (although I know dedicated caching programs e.g. PrimoCache do exist). Certainly there's nothing in DrivePool's settings that mentions caching.
    Whether a disk gets woken by a particular directory query is going to depend on whether that query can be answered by what's in the cache from previous queries.
  6. Like
    Katz777 reacted to VapechiK in How to have drives go to sleep while the StableBit DrivePool service is running?   
    oh you're welcome
    just as an afterthought and to perhaps clarify, if DrivePool is the only StableBit product you are trialing, simply turning off bitlocker SHOULD solve the sleep issue and allow windows to handle normal drive/sleep control duties.  since Scanner is a drive health monitoring utility, it must occasionally communicate with the drives, thereby potentially waking them up.  yes there are settings within that allow user control over them and that is all fine and dandy but, if it's not installed then it's not there to further complicate things initially.
    perhaps just get DrivePool up and running as you like and the sleep issue handled first, then see about Scanner.  i myself wouldn't run a pool without it; the wealth of info it provides about my system in general is well worth the price of admission, and the occasional alert i've received has nipped any real trouble in the bud.  long story short here, the second link provided while very interesting and helpful indeed, is mostly moot unless StableBit Scanner is actually installed.  and, i can't imagine any scenario where one MUST have Scanner installed in order for drive sleep to happen simply because DrivePool is installed.  if you already have both DP and Scanner installed, well great.  you can't go wrong there.
    let us know how it goes and how you finalize your setup

     
  7. Like
    Katz777 got a reaction from VapechiK in How to have drives go to sleep while the StableBit DrivePool service is running?   
    @VapechiK Thanks for your replies and advice, I will work through your suggestions tomorrow when I have time, I really appreciate your response and the links I should be able to get somewhere with all that information🙂
     
    @Shane Thank you that is all very useful to know. I am not sure if DrivePool will be suitable if all the disks are spinning up for each access but I will try and resolve the sleep issue first and then test to see how it works out with Plex.
  8. Thanks
    Katz777 reacted to VapechiK in How to have drives go to sleep while the StableBit DrivePool service is running?   
    hello
    even if you're not using bitlocker, you MUST change the setting value from null to false in the DrivePool json file.  otherwise DP will ping your disks every 5secs or so, and your disks will never sleep at all anyway.  then you begin messing around with windows settings to set when they sleep.  folks here have had varying degrees of success getting drives to sleep, some with no luck at all.  in StableBit Scanner there are various Advanced Power Management (APM) settings that bypass windows and control the drive through its firmware.  i have read of success going that route, but have no experience at all since i am old school and my 'production' DP drives spin constantly cuz that's how i like it.
    to change the json:
    https://wiki.covecube.com/StableBit_DrivePool_2.x_Advanced_Settings 
    there are many threads here on this topic as you have seen, but of course i can't find them easily now that i'm looking lol...  perhaps @Shane or @Christopher (Drashna) will provide the link where Alex (the developer) explains the APM settings in Scanner and the whole drive sleep issue in general in greater detail.
    tl;dr
    you must turn off bitlocker detection first before your drives will ever sleep.  BTW if you ever trial StableBit CloudDrive you must change the same setting in its json as well.
    good luck
    Edit:  found the link:  
    https://community.covecube.com/index.php?/topic/48-questions-regarding-hard-drive-spindownstandby/
     
     
  9. Like
    Katz777 reacted to Shane in How to have drives go to sleep while the StableBit DrivePool service is running?   
    Note that hdparm only controls if/when the disks themselves decide to spin down; it does not control if/when Windows decides to spin the disks down, nor does it prevent them from being spun back up by Windows or an application or service accessing the disks, and the effect is  (normally?) per-boot, not permanent. If you want to permanently alter the idle timer of a specific hard drive, you should consult the manufacturer.
    An issue here is that DrivePool does not keep a record of where files are stored, so I presume it would have to wake up (enough of?) the pool as a whole to find the disk containing the file you want if you didn't have (enough of?) the pool's directory stucture cached in RAM by the OS (or other utility).
×
×
  • Create New...