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Okay, my way was gonna be a real PITA, so I'm doing it via the two-pool method. Unfortunately, I don't have enough (current) drivespace to enable duplication, as I'd have to get a second Terra and also stuff it with drives. Maybe in a few months I can buy some more hardware. I was copying over the pool data and it got interrupted in the last few hours. I poured over Robocopy to see how to get it to just copy the files that don't exist on the target pool, but I cannot for the life of me get the switches straight. Can you give me some pointers? Or is there a better 3rd-party copy app I should be using (treecomp?)? nvm, I stumbled across an open-source app called freefilesync that seems to be up to the task. Still, I'd like to know how to do this with something like Robocopy, though. BTW, Gillware said they could look at the drive, but the recovery cost was probably gonna be steep. Ugh.

Hi, I am in a very similar situation so it seemed a good idea to revive this post instead of creating a new one. Since Drive Bender development has stopped, and my Drivebender installation started misbehaving after recent windows updates, I am trying out Drivepool. I have been using Drivebender for a long time with 3 mount points to the pool , and I have somewhat painted myself in a corner doing so it seems. My pool consists of 6 drives and have E: , F: and G: mounts. Many, many files I have created for my job internally refer to folders on those different mount points (2D/3D and video software projects linked to external libraries/files) . I would really like to avoid having to relink each and every asset in those files, so the network drive solution seems like the way to go. But the issue with that is, as far as I am aware, that there is no Recycle Bin functionality. I can not risk losing client files, so this is scary to me. Would there be a possibility to create virtual disks of some sorts and link folders residing on Drivepool to those so that I can Ctrl-Z accidental deletions? I'm guessing Drive Bender does something like that behind the scenes. I don't think it uses Subst (DB allows renaming mounts), and the mount points show up with regular drive icons and have Recycle Bin functionality. As far as I can imagine it could be possible but the issue would be the drive size management? The obvious thing to do would be to only use the network drives so the software can find the files and to use the Drivepool mount for any direct file manipulations. Changing decade old habits is tough though, so if I can find a workaround that keeps everything as before would be great. Thanks for any insight you might have!

Once you've obtained your own API key from Google, the file to edit is C:\ProgramData\StableBit CloudDrive\ProviderSettings.json You may then need to restart clouddrive. I also suggest making a backup copy of that file before you make any changes to it. I suspect 350 Mbps is the best you'll get.

Hi varied, DrivePool will identify the two pools as being different and connect to each of them as two separate pools on the new PC. There is no built-in command to merge pools (yet) but it can be done manually.

Thanx Shane, i just wish their was a video guide in how to go about applying my own API key in this situation. As ive never attempted anything like this before, so dont want to get it wrong and lose everything in the process. Also 350 Mbps download approx i am getting but as i stated i had a 1GB connection. Is their a way to max this out any settings to change in stablebit to improve my speed or is 350 Mbps about the best i am going to get? Thank you for your help

I have 2 different machines using Stablebit Drivepool as I have 2 licenses. I am now building another PC where I will pool all the drives from these 2 PCS into a new PC and I will transfer one of my license to this new PC. What I want to know is that what will happen if Drivepool on new PC sees 2 different pools of HDDs moved from 2 old PCs. Will my pool/s rebuild in new PC? If yes, will it rebuild a new pool with 2 previous pools combined or will it rebuild 2 new pools in new PC? And, if it rebuilds 2 pools can I then merge them to a single pool? Thanks!

If you're wanting to keep things as simple as possible and you're going to long-format the old drives anyway, then I'd suggest trusting DrivePool to be able to handle the job? create the new pool copy your content from the old pool to the new pool remove the old pool (quickest way #1: stop the service, rename the poolpart.* folder on each to oldpart.*, start the service, remove the "missing" drives from the pool until all gone) (quickest way #2: eject the old drives, remove the "missing drives" until all gone, format the old drives on another machine) This has the side benefits of #A, not having to worry about manually fiddling with pool parts and/or resetting permissions, as unless you're deliberately copying across the permissions from the old pool your content should inherit them from the new pool, #B, you can optionally run lennert's treecomp or other comparison tool of choice after step 2 to ensure it got everything, bit-for-bit if desired, and #C, give the new Terra a good workout now rather than later. And at the end you'll have one pool. P.S. If you've got the drive capacity now, consider turning on real-time x2 duplication for the new pool. YMMV but even though I've got nightly backups, knowing that if any drive in my pools just decides to up and die out of the blue I still won't lose even one day's work from it gives me extra peace of mind.

As a rough estimate, 100TB at 350 Mbps would take at least 27 days (give or take) or almost twice as long as the days remaining until May 15th, so to have any chance of completing that successfully you'd definitely need to switch over to using your own API key. Note that even with your own key there's still a risk Google breaks something on their end (hopefully extremely unlikely but we can't rule it out) and you end up having to download the entire drive manually, so it's up to you to consider whether you should be safely detaching your clouddrive now so that you can begin the manual download.

Thanx, i just hope i can get as much as i can downloaded between now and the 15th May, then we will see how it works overall.

From above conversation and the FAQ, you should be able to continue to use Google Drive by enabling experimental/deprecated provider and set your own Google API key in the "ProviderSettings.json" file. However, they will not actively update the software to keep Google Drive provider working as Google could change their API at any time.

OMG! ive just spotted this & ive got over 100tb on gdrive via stablebit clouddrive! What is the quickest way i cant get my data downloaded please? as im getting approx 350 dload from stablebit on my 1gb internet service. Will google drive fully stop on the 15th May or will i still be able to access it untill google drive do a future update that breaks stablebit access? Thank You

The drives long-formatted just fine. That's one hoop jumped. Now, I can start rebuilding things, but I need some pointers. Three of the drives in the Terra are part of the (old) pool and is being recognized as such. I want to create a new pool using the three Exos as the base, but I don't want DP to have to contend with two pools going simultaneously. I know the software is designed to support multiple pools, but I want to keep things as simple as possible. Plus, in the end, I only want the one pool. Once all the data is moved to the Exos, I'll be long-formatting the old drives to ensure they're still good. How can I eliminate the previous pool without affecting the files on the three drives? Do I just remove them one-by-one, presumably in archive mode, until they've all been processed? And is there anything else I should do afterwards, like taking ownership of the old pool files and/or resetting permissions? Thanks in advance!

Rossmann said they couldn't do anything with the drive, which REALLY surprised me, so they referred me to Gillware Data Recovery. I need to talk to them first before sending the drive in to make sure the attempt will be a reasonable sum, which I'll try to do tomorrow. I guess the moral of the story is not to futz around with diskpart unless you know for damn sure you know what you're doing. I received the Terramaster. It looks like a typical grey internal drive cage, just a little wider and without any mounting points. It uses screw-in drive sleds, unlike the Sabrent, which is a PITA, but c'est la vie. However, it also came with some paper-like inserts that go in-between the drives and the bottom of the sleds, which I've never seen. The boxed instructions don't say why they're required and the online product guide doesn't even mention them, so I can only guess their purpose (electrical insulators?). Bizarre. It also doesn't have an internal PSU as such, but came with a laptop-style 12V barrel plug brick power converter. Unlike the Sabrent, the drives sit vertically, which makes me a bit uncomfortable (I might lay it on its side). There is only one USB-C connector. There has been some talk on the Terramaster forums about people needing a powered USB hub with this unit. I don't know why this would be required when directly attached to the USB-C port on a motherboard, but maybe that's been my problem all along. If so, I'll consider slitting my wrists later. I'm in the process of long-formatting three 18 TB Seagate Exos simultaneously. If that passes, I'll continue trying to rebuild the pool. This is my last attempt at doing so. If the formats fail, I'm giving-up, at least for awhile. Maybe in the far-flung future I'll get a proper tower with a 10,000 watt PSU and stuff it with drives, but I really, REALLY hope the Terramaster comes through. I have confirmed that Windows recognizes all six drives, but the Sabrent did the same until I started encountering those drive dropouts, so longevity will determine the winner. More to come!

I tried copying a large (200+GB) system image file from a win 10 pro PC to the aformentioned drivepool with about 7TB free space & this worked OK. I suspect it's an issue with Win 11.

Windows bases its initial decision on whether the total size of the files/folders being copied is less than the pool's free space as reported by DrivePool. So with 465 GB of files going into 7 TB of free space, Windows should at least start the operation. That said, if you have real-time duplication x3 enabled, to finish copying a 465GB folder into the pool you'd need 3 times 465GB of free space available in the pool, and each and every file involved would need to fit within the remaining free space available in at least three drives within the pool (even if not necessarily the same three drives for different files). E.g. if one of the files was 300GB and less than three drives in the pool had more than 300GB free each, then it wouldn't be able to complete the operation. If none of the above is applicable - e.g. you mention trying to copy 465GB directly to an individual drive with 3TB free and it didn't work - then something weird is going on.

I have 14 mixed size HDD's in my drivepool on a Windows 10 Pro x64 PC giving a total drivepool size of about 24TB with about 7TB free space. I use x3 duplication. When I tried to copy approx 465GB to the drivepool over my LAN from another Win 11 Pro PC, windows 11 reported insufficient free space! I also tried copying the same folder to a 4TB HDD, with about 3TB free space, that is a member of the same drivepool with the same error about insufficient free space! All 14 HDD's are reported as 'healthy' by stablebit scanner. Could this be a drivepool issue or a Win 11 issue? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I haven't heard from Rossmann yet. If I don't get a reply by Wednesday, I'll voice call them. I did order the 6-bay Terramaster, which should be here tomorrow. If/when I'm satisfied it's running as advertised, I'll rebuild the pool and copy over what I can. Assuming everything goes smoothly (har har), I'll reinstall everything and restore from config backups, which I've been holding-off on doing until I can figure things out. I really, REALLY hope the Terramaster "just works". Since it only accepts six drives, the power demand should be a lot less than the Sabrent. I'd still like to disassemble the Sabrent to see what sort of PSU it's using. I'm 99.9% sure it's something custom, but you never know until you actually eyeball things. I'll report back in a few days. Wish me luck.

It means Windows at least thinks that they're ok; running the fixes would ensure that they actually are ok. Stopped as in completed without error but didn't move anything? Might need to adjust the plugin's priority and/or the Balancing settings so that the limiter correctly applies?

It's an awful feeling to have when it happens (been there). Best wishes, I hope you get good news back from the recovery request.

I think I'm gonna give up on having a pool. Maybe a computer. I was trying to clear that 18 TB Exos out using diskpart. This Exos has the label of ST1800NM. Another 20 GB Exos that I had bought a few months ago has the label ST2000NM. I was tired, bleary-eyed, more than a little frustrated with all these problems, wasn't thinking 100% straight, and selected the ST2000NM in diskpart, and cleaned it. Problem is this drive had gigabytes of data that was critical to the pool. GIGABYTES. I still can't believe I made such a simple, rookie, and yet devastating mistake. My God. I don't know if any of the file table can be salvaged, as I just did a simple "clean" and not a "clean all", but I've got a recovery request into Rossmann Repair Group to see if they can do anything with it. I know there are some tools in the wild that I could probably run myself on the drive, but I don't trust myself to do much of anything atm. I should never have thrown money at an AM5 system. I also probably should've stayed away from the Sabrent and anything like it. Instead, I should've done what any sane person would've done and assembled a proven AM4 or Intel platform in a full tower and attached the drives directly to the motherboard. Yeah, the cable management would've been a nightmare, but literally anything would be better than this. My goal of staving-off obsolescence as much as possible has instead kicked me in the teeth while I was already lying prone in a ditch. If, by some miracle, Rossmann is able to recover the data, I'm going to take a long and hard look at my PC building strategy. Hell, maybe I'll throw money at a prebuilt or one of those cute HDMI-enabled NUCs that're all the rage. I just know that I'm exhausted and am done with all of this, at least for the time being.

Hmm. It's very kludgy, but I wonder: Pool X: enough drive(s) to handle backup cycle workload. Duplication disabled. Pool Y: the other drives. Duplication (real-time) enabled. Pool Z: consists of pools X and Y. Folders in File Placement section set so that all folders EXCEPT the backup folders go directly to Y. SSD Optimizer to use pool X as "SSD" and pool Y as "Archive". Balancing settings to un-tick "File placement rules respect..." and tick "Balancing plug-ins respect..." and tick "Unless the drive is...". Result should in theory be that everything except the backup folders (and any files in the root folder of Z) get duplicated real-time in Y, while backups land in the X and only later get emptied into Y (whereupon they are duplicated)?

I've checked the advanced permissions for the pool as well as the hidden poolpart folder on the problem drive, they look just like the ones in your example images in your linked thread. So does this mean my NTFS permissions are OK? Nothing happened! I clicked "balance" and it ran for a few seconds then stopped! *EDIT* Seem it was a permission issue in the end! I followed the guide at https://wiki.covecube.com/StableBit_DrivePool_Q5510455 and this fixed it, I was able to remove the drive!

Yea, I couldn't find any way other than making a new drivepool. Anyhow, I have an idea what's going on, not positive. The drives in that pool range in size from 6TB all the way down to 500GB. As the pool fills up, those small drives run out of space unless the balancing plugins are set up right. I found that I had most of the balancing plugins deactivated for ??? reason. I activated ORDERED FILE PLACEMENT, and put the larger drives at the top of the list. That should fix things. I think using the SSD optimizer is another way to solve the issue. Another option (that I don't like) is to set my backup software to limit backup files to a maximum size, maybe 25GB each.

I think that's not currently possible. It does sound useful and you might wish to submit a feature request (e.g. perhaps "when setting per-folder duplication, can we please also be able to set whether duplication for a folder is real-time or scheduled") to see if it's feasible?

It's possible a file or folder on that drive has corrupted NTFS permissions (see this thread - it includes fixes). When you used the drive usage limiter to evacuate the drive, were there any of your files remaining inside that drive's poolpart? Because if it at least cleared out all of your files from the drive, you could then manually "remove" the drive by renaming its poolpart and then Removing the now-"missing" drive.