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  1. My drives (two of them that is) are the HGST coolspin which are 5900 rpm. These run at 36-38. The other HGST is an ultrastar and runs a couple of degrees more. I have on my older mediasmart whs v1 WD reds and those seems to be cooler but i went with the HGST coolspin as they get good review in backblaze and admittedly were cheaper. Eventually il probably switch out the current dell foxconn fan but i first need a 5 pin to 4 pin converter which i just ordered on ebay... thanks
  2. I have been trying to test cloud drive to backup some of my folders to ACD. The first few times I was using the encrypted method to securely upload and so i didnt expect to be able to read the files from the cloud. Recently i setup an unencrypted clouddrive with the aim that i could use this method to backup some files from my server that I could then look at from a different computer or location. Only when i logged into ACD did i realize that irrespective of whether using the encrypted or unencrypted method, the files are listed under stablebit cloud drive as CloudPart folders and the files in it are not readable on the amazon cloud drive site. I guess someone could download them and reverse engineer (or whatever else it is called) if possible, but in reality even unencrypted files are not practical for remote access. So i cant use the cloud drive method to upload files that i want to be able to access from other computers. I am sure this is written in the FAQs or opening page, and as always i overlooked it, but more likely I was secretly hoping and praying that cloud drive was something similar to odrive or other ways of uploading files into the cloud, especially since amazon's app offering is terrible. Oh well, keep looking...
  3. Yes one thing leads to another... That link u added is for a HDD cage in amazon.co.uk. Did you mean that i should add a cage for improved ventilation (i suspect it wont fit in the dell t20 case...most mods talk about using either a 2.5 orico or a dell 2 drive cage)? Or was it a bad link and you were thinking of a fan? The case BTW has a stock fan (92 mm foxconn) with the dell 5 pin connector. I would like to run a bigger fan there or put another fan in the front of the case. I'd still have to get a splitter for the dell 5 pin and hope the two fans dont overload the mobo power (doubt it) ot get a 4 to 5 pin adaptor. With the current setups as i look now, the upper cage hdd (HGST coolspin 4tb) are at 38, 39C, while the lower cage is at 37. Pain! The burst test was on only one drive that i connected to the LSI/perc h310. I was just checking that the card and cable was fine since i bought it used on ebay. Till i add a cage, i probably wont use the card.
  4. Windows did load one in win 10. Luckily, i was only using the win 10 for flashing the card and testing. The card hopefully will reside in the dell t20 with 2012 r2. I have been testing the drive /controller since last night with the burst mode. 480MB/s currently. Only issue with the server is the other drives are getting a little hot (38, 39C) particularly the two that are at the top cage (oddly enough farthest from the perc card and controlled by the mobo controller). I dont see a way to speed up the case fan and dell makes it hard to add additional/ bigger regular fans by the use of their 5 pin proprietary connectors.
  5. Thanks drashna, My issue is confirming if the mini sas to dual sas cable plus power which came with perc h310 is equivalent to a forward breakout cable ( part T3F4V eg http://www.ebay.com/itm/DELL-CABLE-MINI-SAS-TO-2-DUAL-SAS-AND-POWER-CABLE-T3F4V-/141648332793 I have already flashed the perc to LSI 9211 using mattr's page. What i dont understand is why i cant see the sata drive that i connected to the card with the above cable. If it sounds like the cable is faulty, i will order a sas to 4 sata cable like you and earlier spider 99 suggested but wanted to confirm. EDIT>>> Tested on server 2012 r2 and drive is detected by same cable. So cable and card work. Probably a win 10 or dell t5600 issue. Also drivepool and scanner are seeing the drive.
  6. Thanks. All this while i thought i could connect a sata drive to a sas controller with a sas cable but could not connect a sas drive to a sata controller with a sata cable. I guess i got that wrong.
  7. Thank you for getting back again. Actually there is no BIOS in the card once i followed the flash directions given in the site by mattr https://techmattr.wordpress.com/2016/04/11/updated-sas-hba-crossflashing-or-flashing-to-it-mode-dell-perc-h200-and-h310/ It sounds like he set up that way so the card would be a simple HBA. I will today put the card in my 2012 r2 and see if i can load the 2012 r2 driver and if that allows me to see the underlying drive. Other option is if there is a function at cmd prompt level or during the boot of the server to test that the card is OK. That would prove that it is just a windows driver issue. And thank u on the forward breakout cables link. I copied that title and found it is also in amazon.com (in the us). Sounds like it is one with good reviews. I was planning on eventually getting one but thought id first use the SAS cables that came with card; but this is a good excuse to get a good one.
  8. Thank u again. Oh well, tried on win 10, gave me some strange message of the previous drives being no longer available. So i rebooted after disconnecting the working drive (to be safe), and used the dell dos commands to flash the card to lsi (https://techmattr.wordpress.com/2016/04/11/updated-sas-hba-crossflashing-or-flashing-to-it-mode-dell-perc-h200-and-h310/). Everything went fine except i could not find a win 10 driver. Il test it tomorrow on the server 2012 r2 and see. On win 10, i could not detect a drive that i later connected to the card, but am not sure if this is from a driver issue or from a cable issue. The card came with a two drive SAS cable. The cable looks like a combination of a sata data and power cable. One set of wires goes to the card, and another hooks to the sata power cord in my pc.
  9. Thanks for the reply. So the R in IR is 'Raid' I dont intend to format any drives at this moment as the data is already under the drivepool drives and the OS on an SSD on the same server. My plan to add the card is to allow me to add access initially to the DVD drive (which is disconnected) and later another data drive. i had the choice of picking one of those dell pcs sata cards but these dell percs were at a good price and it looked it would be a good future option for expansion. Since i really dont want to risk my server, i was planning to do any firmware update on a PC running windows 10. But i see what u are saying of giving it a try with the dell firmware first. Have you or anyone else used the perc h310 with drivepool as it is ?
  10. Hi, So adding one more gadget, i just ordered a perc H310 from ebay to give me access to more SATA drives in my dell t20. It seems everywhere i read, this is being discussed with flashing to the LSI 9211 IT mode, mostly though for freenas. I am running a win 2012 r2 essentials and drivepool. Do i gain in reliability or speed in flashing to the IT mode (vs the risks that i goof up while doing all those DOS boots) or should i leave it as it is with the dell firmware? Does drivepool handle one better than the other? (Dell vs lsi IT) Somewhere else i read that in this IT mode, drives dont get parked and that could be an issue (i have three HGST drives currently). To avoid it i have to do another bunch of steps to allow that or that i should leave the card in IR mode. Does leaving the dell Perc H310 with the dell firmware keep it in IR mode (i am a newbie, and despite reading the servethehome writeups, i just dont get what the IR mode actually is). thank you for reading and answering.
  11. Can you expand on the bandwidth limiter? Also if i approach the data cap (comcast lets me see how much ive used day by day), can i stop cloud drive till the month is over to prevent accidental downloads and uploads? Interesting point about business plan...but my plan is tied to a package, so wont probably work. Oh well so now both wireless and wired are capped...Good future for the internet
  12. I very recently downloaded clouddrive, setup a onedrive drive (and later ACD) and uploaded a few test files. When i checked the next evening, I found that crashplan had accidentally tried uploading 26GB into onedrive. It seems that when mounted, this cloud drive was assigned the same letter as a previous (since removed) external drive that I backed my computer to. At this point I was pretty excited as I thought i had found the solution to crashplan backups. Just mount say a cloud (eg ACD) as a drive, and have crashplan backup free to the cloud drive. I was planning to post to wonder what issues id face when I received the unpleasant email from xfinity that starting next month, Im to be capped at 1TB per month!! So that throws everything out as i will have to very careful with my uploads. So that finally brings me to the question, Can I meter or cap the amount of uploads (and downloads for that matter) through cloud drive say a physical number? For that matter, where can i find how much data was sent/received through cloud drive in a day and can I restrict it if need be? thanks
  13. EDIT: Must have been a temporary glitch!! its working on third try. Or may be it was because i was renaming the connection (this time i left it as connection1) Are you still able to add a cloud drive to ACD using 1.0.0.631? I tried last night and just now and after i try to add amazon cloud drive, i am asked to log into amazon, i put in my log in and password and then am given the secret code. It also states Authorized. It does not automatically add the secret code but when i add that to the manually connect button and hit connect, instead of formatting the cloud drive, i get a stablebit Cloud Drive popup stating "Error connecting to Amazon Cloud Drive" and in the window, it says Security error.
  14. Hi drashna, Thank you. I changed to the beta version. Unfortunately it does not seem to make a difference. Veeam does not deduplicate drivepool drives/volumes. In other words if I include the two data drives i have (f and g, not the drive pool virtual drive E since that never works as you said above), then my backup size is 1.52TB. On the other hand if i only backup drive F (since the drive G is basically a duplicate made by drivepool) my backup file size is about 880TB. I started a tech support with veeam and they basically informed me that they dont work with third party software :"if there is any third party software that copies over those volumes, we can not guarantee the success of deduplication in that case due to the fact that we don't know how it goes about copying those files" So on the one hand, one cant run a complete computer backup with veeam because of lack of vss and if you do run a volume backup of drives, then deduplication does not work. Bottom Line: Veeam endpoint and Stablebit drivepool not compatible
  15. Hi drashna, I posted this earlier in the thread that you helped me move from storage spaces to drivepool but may be this is a better location for the question. I have realized that veeam does not work with drivepool (VSS snapshot error) and based on this above thread is expected. So as you mentioned above, I changed veeam to volume backups of the physical drives with the expectation that veeam deduplicates. Unfortunately that didnt happen and instead of a 843 GB backup, i ended up with 1.7TB or close to that backup. Before i drop veeam as incompatible with drivepool, I wanted to know if i should upgrade to the beta version of drivepool since you mention that it deals with veeam better and try again. Since the post is from february, is the beta version still better with veeam? thanks.
  16. Hi Drashna, I was away and just logged in and found a new problem!! Veeam has stopped backing up for the past 5 days ie since the migration claiming that a VSS snapshot is not occurring. eg of message: 9/9/2016 12:23:21 AM :: Creating VSS snapshot Error: Failed to create snapshot: Backup job failed. Cannot create a shadow copy of the volumes containing writer's data. VSS asynchronous operation is not completed. Operation: [shadow copies commit]. Code: [0x80042306]. When i read up more, veeam says this has error has something to do with the snapshot size or drive size. Since drive size is a non issue (using 1 among 4TB), i looked under file explorer, and i see that in addition to the drivepool virtual drive E:, the two physical discs (F and G) are also visible, unlike say storage spaces where they were not listed. When i right click the E drive and configure shadow copies, it is listed as disabled but under shadow copy size, E: size limit is 763063 MB, while F and G are 381531 ie. exactly half the size of the virtual drive. I didnt set this so the software must have. i run the command line u listed above, (i presume the X: is replaced by E: correct?, as in vssadmin resize shadowstorage /for=E: /on=E: /maxsize=150GB) . After running the above command, while the E drive shadow copy size has changed, the F and G are still the original number. Am i supposed to run it for the individual physical drives also? After all this i still get the same Veeam error. By the way, there are shadow copies on the OS drive C:. Thanks as always
  17. Thanks Drashna for all your help in the migration . Hopefully, someone facing a similar issue can read this thread. Also, great call on VSS. I still cant believe that i had over 900gb in shadows on the storage space drivepool. I suspect since windows presets a 16 TB drive, the shadows are a percentage of this fictional number and so this high. From now on il watch out for any ballooning of drives. Hopefully drivepool does not have that issue.
  18. Good call on VSS. Wow, I had 910 Gb in shadow copies!! I had to delete them as otherwise i could not remove the 1 Tb disk. I deleted the shadows from cmd and then changed size of shadow copies to 300MB. I was able to remove disk and replace with 4 TB I did everything else as you suggested including seeding and removing the E drive from pool (took a few hours to copy the 860 GB) and finally renaming new drivepool drive and rebooting. Drivepool is working. EDIT: Solved (see below) Only problem is that after i deleted the original storage pool through server manager (deleted underlying volumes and then deleted the virtual disk), drivepool can no longer see the underlying physical 2 TB and 4TB drives. In fact, i cant see the drives in disk management but I can see them in device manager under disk drives and I can also see them when i run the powershell command Get-PhysicalDisk. They seem fine there with Health Status Healthy and usage as Auto-Select. What am I missing? I saw a message on a similar topic on a drivepool forum from 2015 that a couple others could not find their drives. Someone said they had to add drive names and then reboot. How do I add drive names if i dont see it in disk manager? Thanks again EDIT: I was scratching my head and looked at essentials dashboard and noticed they was still a function called manage storage spaces. When I clicked it, found both the drives under them as empty. I removed both the disks here and voila, I could see them in disk management and drivepool!! So I guess deleting the virtual disk (after deleting volumes) in server manager is not enough. It removed the virtual disk (as the Get-virtualdisk command brought up nothing) but still leaves the storage space! Learnt something new
  19. Thank you again. Came back to add, that I could not remove the 1TB drive from server manager. When i chose to remove the disk, i got a warning about compromising redundancy etc, to which I said yes, then another popup turned up stating that I needed to add a drive before removing one!! Wow! So i went into powershell adm prompt and was able to retire the disk and am currently repairing the virtual disk. Once thats done, i probably will be able to remove the disk (whether via server manager or powershell). It sounds like some functions like retiring a disk are only in powershell. Aah i reread what u said and realized that I have to actually copy/move the server folders contents within the same drive. So basically from the E: to E:\PoolPart.xxxx\ and then when i remove the storage spaces, drivepool will move it into the new 4TB drive. So it is effectively two moves. OK! Can i not just move the folders directly to the new 4TB drive under its hidden folder say F:\PoolPart.xxx\ and then rename the drive to E:? or does that mess up the server? Can you expand how do i "stop the server"? Is there a simple command to stop server and client backup (though i suspect there is no imminent backup currently). There are multiple things running under task manager, many starting with server host. Do i individually shut them down?
  20. Thank you for replying. It was under the server 2012 r2 essentials subforum. Thank you in any case. Server manager.. aah i was looking at the essentials dashboard and did not see a remove drive option there within the storage pool disk list...I see one under server manager in storage pools withing physical disks so i will do that. Thanks. by the way, The "control sysdm.cpl" in command prompt (admin or otherwise) opens system properties and under that i dont see a system protection tab. I only see hardware, advanced and remote tabs with no system protection under any. By the way, as may have been apparent, i dont know much about applets etc and am learning server 2012 r2 essentials, so sorry if I am asking something basic! My previous good old server was the much easier HP EX490! Ok, so i will plan to remove the 1TB, add the 4TB physically, install drivepool and assign both the new 4TB and the existing virtual drive (called drive E:) into drivepool? Didnt realize i could add a virtual drive into drivepool. Ok, reading the seeding guide...currently i have storage spaces called drive E: and under it "Server Folders" which in turn contains the client backups and videos and all other folders. So i just copy all these folders into E:\PoolPart.xxxx\Server Folders\ ? Then remove the Storage spaces virtual drive from drivepool. You said rename the new drivepool as E:? But does that not happen from when drivepool creates the hidden folder or does it initially assign a different letter? Then reboot computer? And hope for the best Thank you. Lastly, I was thinking as an alternative to these steps to just destroy the storage spaces pool and then using the veeam recovery function, recover the folders but i can see that drivepool uses a hidden folder and that may not work out.
  21. Hi, I posted this question about 10 days back on hss forum but was told I may get a response here. I have edited it a little. Thank you for reading my message. I am currently running an evaluation version of server 2012 r2 essentials on a dell T20 and have three drives for data (1 , 2 and 4 TB) and an SSD with the OS on it. Total storage is about 0.84TB (mirrored 2 way) but unevenly spread between the initial 1 TB drive (came with server) and the later added drives. Storage spaces doesnt apparently rebalance and the data in storage spaces is not readable in other windows computers; as in if the server were to crash, I could not just attach the drive by usb/sata to another windows PC and read the data. As a result i am looking into drivepool. I was google searching for a built in technique to migrate from storage spaces to drivepool and saw one mention about copying files over but wanted to confirm. Since posting this message, I found that it is not easy to remove a drive from SS either. Googling it suggests using powershell to retire a disk, repair the virtual disk and then extract. Complicating matters, storage spaces is now reporting low hard drive space despite having a total of 4+2+1 TB (so atleast 3.5TB duplicated) in the dell t20 storage spaces while i only have 0.84 TB of data in total!! Doubling that should be 1.68 TB (as reported by file explorer). Essentials dashboard claims i am using 4.27 of 6.36 TB space! 1. In any case, my current plan is physically remove the 1 TB drive using powershell or just manually pull it out, then add a new 4T drive in its place and assign it to drivepool. I will then copy the client backup folders and photos, videos etc to this new drive from the other drives. Is this the best way? And can i just drag them using file explorer or does one have to use the essentials dashboard to reassign folder location? Then i will delete the storage space and reclaim the remaining two drives (2 and 4t) and add them to drivepool to permit mirroring. 2. Alternatively, I can delete storage spaces completely (though that option worries me even though i have been backing up the server!!), then use veeam that has been backing up daily the server and hopefully extract the client backups and video, photo shared folders from it to the new drivepool. Pleas advice me if these are the best options or if there is an easier way around. thank you.
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