St0ry Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Did a search of the forums but nothing came up... When defragging, should I select each individual drive or do I just choose the drivepool? This is just via the Windows 8 built-in defragger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Christopher (Drashna) Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Defragging is block level, IIRC. So it won't work on the pool. Ever. However, you can definitely defragment the disks in the pool, and there should be no issue with doing that. Alex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 St0ry Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 Thanks, one by one it is then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Christopher (Drashna) Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Yup. But depending on what you use, it may be able to run the defrag pass on multiple drives, simultaneously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 T.Bone Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I am Running WS2012E R2, should I use the built in function or can I use Perfectdisk? I don't want to lose data and want to avoid doing something wrong. My mixture is SSD system drive and 4tb drives internal and external container. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Christopher (Drashna) Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 There is ABSOLUTELY NO ISSUE using either the built in defragmentation software, or using 3rd party software. Specifically, StableBit DrivePool stores the files on normal NTFS volumes. We don't do anything "weird" that would break defragmentation. At all. In fact, I personally use PerfectDisk on my server (which has 12 HDDs), and have never had an issue with it. Mauricio Maurente 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Philmatic Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I am Running WS2012E R2, should I use the built in function or can I use Perfectdisk? I don't want to lose data and want to avoid doing something wrong. My mixture is SSD system drive and 4tb drives internal and external container. There is ABSOLUTELY NO ISSUE using either the built in defragmentation software, or using 3rd party software. Specifically, StableBit DrivePool stores the files on normal NTFS volumes. We don't do anything "weird" that would break defragmentation. At all. In fact, I personally use PerfectDisk on my server (which has 12 HDDs), and have never had an issue with it. The defragger built into Windows Server 2012 can defrag multiple disks at the same time, just select them all like you would select multiple files and hit Optimize. Worked fine for my 24 drive server, it did all 24 at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Christopher (Drashna) Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 The defragger built into Windows Server 2012 can defrag multiple disks at the same time, just select them all like you would select multiple files and hit Optimize. Worked fine for my 24 drive server, it did all 24 at the same time. Or you can open up a command prompt and run "defrag /c /o" Or get a list of the commands by running "defrag /?" from a command prompt. However, I like the PerfectDisk defragger, because it support multiple different profiles, which can boost performance. As well as better support for things like prepping to shrink a drive. As well as the real-time optimization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 T.Bone Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 However, I like the PerfectDisk defragger, because it support multiple different profiles, which can boost performance. As well as better support for things like prepping to shrink a drive. As well as the real-time optimization. What version of Perfectdisk are you running? I am familiar with the product as I run it on my WHS v1 box, can you talk about how you have your perfectdisk configured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Christopher (Drashna) Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 What version of Perfectdisk are you running? I am familiar with the product as I run it on my WHS v1 box, can you talk about how you have your perfectdisk configured? The lastest, which is 13. Specifically, I bought the "Smart Bundle", which was the server version and 5 Pro versions (for $150). The server license is $100 normally, so it's not a bad deal. The "home server" may work, but it looks like it's still using v12. As for the setup.... I use the "SSD" option for the SSD drives, completely disabled the Pool drive, but I use the "SMARTPlacement" for the rest of the disks, and use the "Performance Aggressive" option. This stores the boot and directory info at the beginning of the disk. Then the "Recently" modified files, so they're at the beginning as well, and will load faster. Then the occasionally and rarely modified files (in that order). In theory, this should favor frequently modified files, as these are arguably more important. grimpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 T.Bone Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I found this after posting my question sorry about that. just to make sure I disabled the pool correctly i right clicked on it an added it to exclusions.I set the SSD to SSD Optimize and left the OS Server Back up disk to consolidate free space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Christopher (Drashna) Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Not a problem. And yup, that's right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 T.Bone Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Thanks Christoper i appreciate the help as always Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Christopher (Drashna) Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 You're very welcome! And if you need anything else, or have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 nauip Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 This answered my question, too. Though I suspected I already knew the answer, it's helpful to be sure. Christopher (Drashna) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Christopher (Drashna) Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Well, worst case, it just wouldn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 T.Bone Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Hello Christopher are you still using Perfectdisk on your drivepool server? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Christopher (Drashna) Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 I was until about April of last year, because my system installation nuked itself (like restores didn't work, but a reinstall did). I haven't bothered to reinstall it, at this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 T.Bone Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Nevermind already answered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Christopher (Drashna) Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 because it got bumped... I decided to look into defrag stuff again.... Diskeeper is now DymaxIO, with no real options or UI, and a yearly license. Raxco PerfectDisk appears abandoned. 2021 is the latest update, and the website has some pretty critical errors on it. Windows 10 support mentioned, but nothing about Windows 11. Edit: They're actually closing, after operating for 45 years. Defraggler is discontinued, last version is from 2018. Auslogic Disk Defrag is super spammy. O&O defrag, exists but haven't really tested it. Server version is separate and much more expensive. Seems like the era of defragging is dead. But given SSDs/NVMe drives, and large capacity HDDs, I can't say that I'm surprsised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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When defragging, should I select each individual drive or do I just choose the drivepool? This is just via the Windows 8 built-in defragger.
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