tcz06a Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 I have recently purchased a new USB drive, and StableBit Scanner is using non-manufacturer specific interpretation rules for it. I have also found that Scanner cannot read from 1705 sectors near the beginning of the disk, although 4 other utilities are reporting able to read and write to those sectors. I am using Scanner Beta v2.5.2.3103I noticed that Scanner is not able to read how old the drive is, when it could on an older model of WD My Passport 2TB drive.If I can provide any further information, please let me know. I am attaching several images to detail the disk.The included attachments have information from:CoveCube DirectIO ToolStableBit ScannerCrystalDiskInfo I wonder if Scanner is somehow incorrect about those 1705 sectors being damaged, perhaps due to not communicating with the disk correctly.For example, DirectIO seems to think this is an SSD when it is not. -Tomas CrystalDiskInfo7_0_4.txt direct.txt tcz06a 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher (Drashna) Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Please upgrade to the latest version of StableBit Scanner. http://dl.covecube.com/ScannerWindows/beta/download/StableBit.Scanner_2.5.2.3122_BETA.exe These newer USB drives are using some very different (read weird) ways to report info, and it does cause issues with StableBit Scanner. The problem has been resolved in the newest versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcz06a Posted November 6, 2016 Author Share Posted November 6, 2016 I am happy to report that the problem sectors are not reporting as damaged now. Scanner is still not showing the age of the HD, though. Might that be due to the non-manufacturer specific interpretation of its SMART data? Whatever the reason, it is a minor concern. I am very happy that the provided update seems to have corrected the bad sectors issue. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher (Drashna) Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Does the SMART data show the power on hours? If it doesn't, then it won't show the age of the drive, as that is how it's calculated, IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcz06a Posted November 7, 2016 Author Share Posted November 7, 2016 Looks like you are correct. Using smartmontools to see everything about the drive shows a bit more than Scanner, I think, but still lacks any power on hours. Which seems like a step back, in my opinion. Thank you, again, for the assistance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher (Drashna) Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Yeah, if the drive isn't displaying power on hours at all, then there isn't a lot we can really do. Either that information is present, or it's not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woho_213 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Hello, I have purchased a WD My Passport 259D (4TB) last month too. During the last years I have bought several external HD from WD too.With my last drives, I have never met any problem accessing to SMART Values, with several programs, like HD Tune Pro, Crystal Disk Info, StableBit Scanner etc (and also with the WD programs like (WD Drive Utilities and Data Lifeguard Diagnostic)However this new drive, only shows 4 values: Read Error Rate, Spin-Up Time, Reallocated Sectors Count, Temperature. In any program I run, no errors were found in my new HDD. However, this is very weird and annoying, because I can't ensure my drive is in perfect state.I can not even know the hours the drive has been On.... I think it's the same problem tcz06a has encountered Is it possible that the drive is not working well? Or all of the new WD drives have the same problem?Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcz06a Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 Based on my research with this drive, and using a plethora of tools to probe for SMART data, I believe that the drive simply is not tracking anything besides those four attributes. Perhaps more information is recorded by, and in, the drive's firmware, but not in SMART. It is disappointing, but there isn't anything to be done about it for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher (Drashna) Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I'm very sorry to hear that. If you can post an Amazon/Newegg/etc link to it, I'll flag this issue for Alex. So he can see if there is another way to get more data from the drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcz06a Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 This is the drive I purchased:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822235121I was able to get a bit more info from it, I think, when I used the program smartctl. That was a while ago, though. I don't recall if it was useful. I will be keenly interested if Alex is able to eke out any more useful data from this drive. If you want any additional info, such as firmware revisions, etc., I am happy to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher (Drashna) Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 This is the drive I purchased: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822235121 I was able to get a bit more info from it, I think, when I used the program smartctl. That was a while ago, though. I don't recall if it was useful. I will be keenly interested if Alex is able to eke out any more useful data from this drive. If you want any additional info, such as firmware revisions, etc., I am happy to help. Thanks. And SMARTCTL may have gotten more information out, but using non-SMART data. https://stablebit.com/Admin/IssueAnalysis/27255 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woho_213 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Thanks, at least I know my external HDD is okay.I send an email to WD and the boy that answer was not a techncian and didn't know anything about this. They told me that I can return the drive to the store and replace it for a proper one which can have all of the information I need. However I don't want to return the drive if it's okayIt's strange, I've never found a drive with only 4 values in SMART..I googled it and I only found this thread regarding this issue. What do you think? May I change it for another drive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcz06a Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 In my opinion, I think a drive with such a measly SMART attribute set is not necessarily any more or less suitable for most people's needs. It does pose, I think, a greater liability, insomuch as you have fewer attributes to indicate the drive's health and overall fitness. Had I known beforehand, I would have chosen a different drive. I left feedback expressing this with WD. If it is working alright for you now, you will simply need to remain extra vigilant of its health yourself. Fortunately, StableBit Scanner's core scanning features can be leveraged for this easily. Christopher (Drashna) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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