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#1 WordTickler

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Posted 14 July 2015 - 11:47 PM

I'm new to drive/disk pooling but definitely hooked.

 

A couple of weeks ago I tested and then bought Drive Ender (a.k.a. Drive Bender). I need no duplication, load balancing nor landing zone support as I only host 10tb of movies that I have all the original disks for. Running a 1tb SSD and three 4tb drives. In Drive Ender, I turned off those features and still watched the software constantly load balancing. I contacted their support and they were more than rude to me--condescending actually--and ultimately admitted it was a bug they've been working on. Many other people in the forums were having the same issue and getting angrier every hour. So I decided I'd take the hit on the purchase and find another solution. The main thing that irked me about "forced" balancing was that is was rapidly shortening the lifespan of my brand new (1st ever owned and very protected of) SSD and they had no sympathy for that.

 

I really hunched down on the keyboard and performed exhaustive research (hundreds of forum posts) before deciding on DriveCool (a.k.a. DrivePool, heh). Just a couple of hours ago, I downloaded the trial, installed it and decided to give it a whirl. I was hoping you guys at StableBit could help me help you while helping you help me--IOW, feel the pain of someone new to your product as they experience it. So here goes:

 

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...then...

 

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...then...

 

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I really really want to like DrivePool. Anyone?

 

-= WordTickler =-

 



#2 saitoh183

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Posted 15 July 2015 - 01:05 PM

When you add Drives to the Pool, there is a hidden folder that is created on the drive. If you enable hidden folders you will see a folder with a bunch of numbers(GUID) (ie: PoolPart.5244d622-70db-4b3d-a3ed-d335999b08b2) That folder will be on every drive and any content in that folder will be visible in Foxtrot.

 

So all you have to do is go on S,T and U and move all the content into the Poolpart folder.


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#3 WordTickler

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Posted 15 July 2015 - 01:15 PM

Oh good. As I was comparing the pooling technologies, I was hoping for something intuitive like this :)

 

Thanks for the reply. I'll go check it out right now.

 

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#4 saitoh183

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Posted 15 July 2015 - 03:48 PM

Oh good. As I was comparing the pooling technologies, I was hoping for something intuitive like this :)

 

Thanks for the reply. I'll go check it out right now.

 

-= WordTickler =-

 

DriveBender works in the same way but they move your data for you that is why you saw it right away. 


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#5 Christopher (Drashna)

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Posted 15 July 2015 - 08:10 PM

Well, I'm very sorry to hear about your poor experience with Drive Bender (Division M)'s customer service.  That's never fun. :(

 

 

As for your questions, I'll try to answer all of them (though the images makes it a bit harder, as I can't just quote you, but that's not a problem).  And I apologize for the massive info dump here (but I suspect that you won't object!).

 

 

For the first image, that is the "Create a new pool" page, for a lack of a better term.  It shows all of the available disks that can be added to a pool. This shows up, when you want to create a secondary pool as well.  Once you've clicked the "+ Add" button, it will add that disk to the pool, and go to a different page, as you can see. 

Additionally, we ONLY list eligible drives. This means that the Pool is not shown in this list ever, and that certain other disks are not show here (such as flash drives and dynamic disks). 

 

When you add a drive to the pool, it doesn't change the letter, and it doesn't move the content around. You can continue to use the drives however you want, and use it for the pool.  

Additionally, when adding the first drive, it creates a new drive letter, which IS the pool.  (you can hide the drive letter or mount it to a folder, like how Drive Bender does, but we give you the option, rather than forcing you to do so).

This also means  that the content doesn't just appear in the Pool unfortunately.  That's a bit more hands on, to "fix".  But it means that we don't break your existing configuration.

 

As Saitoh183 has said,  this new drive letter shows you the contents of the hidden PoolPart folders on each drive added to the pool, but as one single drive (pooled, even ;) ).

And you can "seed" the pool, which we have detailed instructions on how to do (that's what he's referring to by moving the files into these folders):

http://wiki.covecube...vePool_Q4142489

 

 

 

And as for the drive letter, as you've already discovered/mentioned, it can be changed. Specifically, we use the windows API whenever we can. So that is what assigns the letter (automatically).  

 

 

 

 

As for balancing, we do have some options for that. However, by default, the files shouldn't be moved around very often, at all. 

In fact, with the default configuration, the only time you should see a lot of data being moved around ... well there are two events that will trigger that:

  • If you have StableBit Scanner installed on the same system, and it marks a disk as damaged.
    This will cause StableBit DrivePool to evacuate the data from the drive, to prevent corruption of your data.
  • If the drives get too full. The "Prevent Drive Overfill" balancer will attempt to clear out some of the data to make sure the drive isn't more than 90% full, or so that it has at least 100GBs free. 

Otherwise, the balancing system should be rather idle most of the time.

 

 

Additionally, there are a number of options that you can tweak to get it running how you want.

http://stablebit.com...ancing Settings

 

We definitely do recommend leaving balancing enabled, because of the above mentioned reasons. 

However, it should only balance once every 12 hours.  And you can change that, as well. 

 

 

 

 

If you have any more questions, or if you need any clarification, don't hesitate to ask.


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