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#21 Christopher (Drashna)

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Posted 13 August 2015 - 06:33 PM

Any updates to Windows 10 compatibility?

 

 

Just asking.  I had been waiting to switch from Flexraid (which is also not working well with W10).  I guess I'll give it a shot and see how it does.

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

Officially, we're still working on it.

Unofficially, we have a LOT of people on it already, myself included, and there seems to be no issues. 


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Posted 13 August 2015 - 08:33 PM

Awesome!   ;) 

 

I'll get it a go.  Thank you for the response.



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Posted 13 August 2015 - 11:56 PM

You're very welcome. If you do notice any issues, let us know.

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Posted 15 August 2015 - 04:51 AM

I thought everything was ok, but just found my first bug.  

 

There is a mystery folder named "5cc6ba767698f5504f4a776ed0" at the root of my pool, and when I try to access it I get "You don't currently have permission to access this folder"

 

I know drivepool isn't officially supported on win10 yet but any suggestions?  Should I try clicking Continue or try something else first?   I don't seem to be missing anything, so no emergency just curious mostly.  I don't recall seeing it pre-upgrade, so not sure it's related to Win10 or not.

 

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#25 ZeldasLegend

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Posted 15 August 2015 - 02:21 PM

In case this is the right forum topic to comment on for possible Windows 10 bugs (not to troubleshoot them but simply to note them), I have encountered an issue where my exiting drive pool disappears after having been booted into my Windows 10 Pro desktop for around a day.  Rebooting restores the pool but then it takes several hours to be fully synchronized/duplicated again.  But each of the last three times the issue re-occurs and the pool is unavailable until I reboot again.  The drives associated with the pool are no longer visible within the app as either part of a pool nor are they listed in the non-pooled section even though the drives are still available as normal NTFS partitions for non-pool use.  Similarly, the drive letter and virtual partition for the pool also disappear once this problem occurs at which the pool is no longer accessible both inside and outside of the app until after restarting my PC.  Note that restarting the app doesn't help with this particular issue, hence rebooting to restore the pool.



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Posted 16 August 2015 - 12:07 AM

I thought everything was ok, but just found my first bug.  

 

There is a mystery folder named "5cc6ba767698f5504f4a776ed0" at the root of my pool, and when I try to access it I get "You don't currently have permission to access this folder"

 

I know drivepool isn't officially supported on win10 yet but any suggestions?  Should I try clicking Continue or try something else first?   I don't seem to be missing anything, so no emergency just curious mostly.  I don't recall seeing it pre-upgrade, so not sure it's related to Win10 or not.

 

nMmgSBf.jpg

I hate these folders. I really, really do.

 

Specifically, they're used by some Windows Updates. They're placed on the disk with the most free space (shock, that's the pool!). And the permissions set on them can be problematic sometimes.

 

Yes, try clicking "Continue" and see if it helps. Otherwise, you may need to take ownership of the files, and change the permissions:

In Security-> Advanced, open the "Owner" tab and set the owner of the "shares" folder to "Administrators" and check the "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects" option, and hit OK.
In Security->Advanced, Add full privileges to "Administrators", and again, "Replace all child object permission entries with inheritable permission entries from this object", and OK
 
If that doesn't help, and you're on 2.1.1.561, try rebooting the system.
 
 

 

In case this is the right forum topic to comment on for possible Windows 10 bugs (not to troubleshoot them but simply to note them), I have encountered an issue where my exiting drive pool disappears after having been booted into my Windows 10 Pro desktop for around a day.  Rebooting restores the pool but then it takes several hours to be fully synchronized/duplicated again.  But each of the last three times the issue re-occurs and the pool is unavailable until I reboot again.  The drives associated with the pool are no longer visible within the app as either part of a pool nor are they listed in the non-pooled section even though the drives are still available as normal NTFS partitions for non-pool use.  Similarly, the drive letter and virtual partition for the pool also disappear once this problem occurs at which the pool is no longer accessible both inside and outside of the app until after restarting my PC.  Note that restarting the app doesn't help with this particular issue, hence rebooting to restore the pool.

 

Could you get file system logs?

http://wiki.covecube..._Log_Collection

 

At the very least, the text logs may help indicate the issue. 

Also, are you seeing anything in the Event Viewer, in the System section? (disk, ntfs, controller, or similar errors)

If so, could you upload those logs as well.


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#27 ZeldasLegend

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Posted 21 August 2015 - 07:58 AM

Unfortunately each time I've rebooted the collection of logs is automatically stopped in the app.  The most recent occurrence had the pool fail within 30 minutes.

 

I found the following error message in Event Viewer:

"Volume Shadow Copy Service error: Unexpected error CreateFileW(\\?\GLOBALROOT\Device\HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy1\,0x80000000,0x00000003,...).  hr = 0x80070001, Incorrect function.
.

Operation:
   Processing PreFinalCommitSnapshots

Context:
   Execution Context: System Provider"

 

In this specific occurrence the time was 8/20 @ 5:56:41 pm CT.  The event source was "VSS", the Event ID was "12289", the task category was none, and the event level was "Error".  After this error occurred the pool was gone again (I haven't yet rebooted again due to other ongoing backup tasks that are a higher priority).

 

Less than a minute later there is a single additional event for the source "VSS" which was at time 5:57:36 pm CT.  The Event ID, task category, and event level were the same as the previous event.  The event details are nearly identical except the second error was ShadowCopy2 rather than ShadowCopy1.

 

"Volume Shadow Copy Service error: Unexpected error CreateFileW(\\?\GLOBALROOT\Device\HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy2\,0x80000000,0x00000003,...).  hr = 0x80070001, Incorrect function.
.

Operation:
   Processing PreFinalCommitSnapshots

Context:
   Execution Context: System Provider"

 

There are three warnings/errors in the 15 minutes prior to the first event listed above and both of these events are for the source "Kernel-EventTracing".  The first is a warning and the second event is an error.

 

The first event (warning) which occurred at 5:56:12 (event ID 4 with task category of "logging") is:

"The maximum file size for session "ReadyBoot" has been reached. As a result, events might be lost (not logged) to file "C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\ReadyBoot\ReadyBoot.etl". The maximum files size is currently set to 20971520 bytes."

 

The second event (error) which occurred at 5:56:12 (event ID 3 with task category of "session") is:

"Session "ReadyBoot" stopped due to the following error: 0xC0000188"

 

The third event is an error for source CAPI2 which occurred at 5:56:31 (event ID 513 with task category of "none") is:

"

Cryptographic Services failed while processing the OnIdentity() call in the System Writer Object.

Details:
AddLegacyDriverFiles: Unable to back up image of binary Microsoft Link-Layer Discovery Protocol.

System Error:
Access is denied.
.

"

 

I suspect this information is not of much use without the more detailed log files but unfortunately for this occurrence this is all that I have available.

 

~John



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Posted 22 August 2015 - 08:12 PM

Additional information for the pool disappearing issue I'm having with Windows 10.  Ever since my last reboot which triggered the installation of new Windows 10 updates (I'm on the slow cycle for updates which are still forced updates) the issue hasn't re-ocurred.  Granted it has only been about a day but this is a good sign compared to my experience the last couple of weeks so I thought I'd mention it in case the Windows 10 updates does end up resolving my issue.



#29 Christopher (Drashna)

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Posted 23 August 2015 - 02:07 AM

Okay, then whatever was triggering it was fixed.

Likely, it was something that we rely on or call. It's hard to tell.

 

As for the VSS Stuff, we don't use it or support it, and it shouldn't make a difference here. As for the readyboot stuff may be related. Though, it's hard to tell.

 

If this happens again, do let us know (and see what updates it installed recently, if you can).


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Posted 24 August 2015 - 06:28 AM

Quick update that as of 01:27 am CT on 08/24 I still haven't had the pool disappearance issue re-occur since KB 3081441 cumulative update was installed on 08/21.

 

Two updates were installed but unfortunately they are cumulative updates and for the second one the updates actually installed should be one of the fixes dates on or after August 13th in the KB page:

1) Security Update for Microsoft Windows (KB 3081444) installed on 08/21 => a single new Internet Explorer update was included in this cumulative update and thus is unlikely to be the culprit.

2) Update for Microsoft Windows (KB 3081441) installed on 08/20 (auto-installed during the reboot after the final pool disappearance/crash) => the latest Windows cumulative update which supercedes the previous cumulative update (KB3081440 released on I believe August 12th which should have already installed on my PC the previous week as part of the mandatory updates - it is not listed in my installed updates presumably since KB 3081441 replaced/superceded it)

 

Attached (it didn't publish in a readable manner) is an extract from KB 3081441 of all of the Windows 10 64-bit updates that were published on or after August 1st, 2015 (i.e., I stripped out those prior to those date since I'm definitely no more than 1 week behind on Windows 10 updates)

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#31 Christopher (Drashna)

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Posted 24 August 2015 - 08:40 PM

It looks like the update was to fix an install issue with this one:

https://support.micr...n-us/kb/3081438

if you look at the list of affected files, there are a lot of core files in there. So yeah, I can definitely see this fix affecting the Pool this way. (or the system in general). 

 

And even the ones you list, there are definitely some critical stuff there.


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#32 ZeldasLegend

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Posted 27 August 2015 - 05:24 AM

Unfortunately the problem has re-ocurred again regarding the disappearing tools in Windows 10 x64 on my desktop.  It could be a coincidence but it crashed around the time my computer was accessing a Blu-Ray via AnyDVD HD and PowerDVD 14.  I uploaded the generated log files as well a few hours ago using the form on the log collection page.



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Posted 27 August 2015 - 08:03 PM

Could you see if if this build helps:

http://dl.covecube.c...36_x64_BETA.exe

 

It does have preliminary Windows 10 support, so it may work better.

 

 

And I've flagged the logs for Alex.

https://stablebit.co...eAnalysis/19780


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Posted 05 September 2015 - 04:11 PM

I'm curious if anyone who was running ver xxx.636 has upgraded to xxx.639 yet?



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Posted 11 September 2015 - 09:42 AM

Hi guys, my first post here !  :P

 

Planning to test Drivepool on my new windows 10 rig before buying (with snapraid for parity protection). 

What version should i try ? The stable one or this beta ?

 

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 06:46 PM

I'm curious if anyone who was running ver xxx.636 has upgraded to xxx.639 yet?

I'm on 638, but there shouldn't be a significant change between the versions.

 

Hi guys, my first post here !  :P

 

Planning to test Drivepool on my new windows 10 rig before buying (with snapraid for parity protection). 

What version should i try ? The stable one or this beta ?

 

Thanks

Welcome!

 

And we recommend the release version, whenever possible. 

So the 2.1.1.561 version. However, please feel free to use the internal beta builds, if you would like. They're not as tested, but they should work just fine.


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Posted 15 September 2015 - 01:56 PM

Just about to take the leap to Windows 10 for DrivePool and Scanner ... are there recommended beta versions for both that are generally stable?

 

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Posted 15 September 2015 - 07:45 PM

For StableBit Scanner, the public beta build is pretty stable. But the newer ones should be as well, and are compiled with the Windows 10 SDK.

 

As for StableBit DrivePool, the 2.2.0.639 build is pretty stable, and should be usable (though the 636 build and up are Windows 10 compatible)


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#39 xamandre

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Posted 16 September 2015 - 11:45 AM

I installed yesterday the stable version with Windows 10 and only 1 disk in the pool and everything seems to work fine. I will surely wait for a stable release before upgrade :)

 

Is the scanner worth a try ? I fear that it will not let my disks to sleep with all its checks...and for what i know there is not a simple way in windows to see if a disk is sleeping or not (to control what is happening with the scanner)



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Posted 16 September 2015 - 07:39 PM

I installed yesterday the stable version with Windows 10 and only 1 disk in the pool and everything seems to work fine. I will surely wait for a stable release before upgrade :)

 

Is the scanner worth a try ? I fear that it will not let my disks to sleep with all its checks...and for what i know there is not a simple way in windows to see if a disk is sleeping or not (to control what is happening with the scanner)

There are a bunch of options in StableBit Scanner to "reign in" the access.

 

Specifically, there is a work window that you can set (it is set by default on certain profiles, eg ... all of them but "Desktop").  Additionally, there are options to throttle the SMART queries if it's keeping the disks awake, as well. 

 

http://stablebit.com...Section=General

http://stablebit.com...l?Section=SMART


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